Talk:Chronology of PlayStation 2 games

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Regarding concern that the list would be too long and unmanageable, two replies:

  • Just like for Playstation, the chronology is only by month, not date, and alphabetical from there.
  • Gamespot only lists 2400 games. Even if not all games are in, having all major and a fair selection of minor games listed in chronological order is a great benefit. Do not assume that just because something is difficult it is impossible.
Gamespot might only list 2400 games, but wikipedia's own P2 article says "By the end of March 2005, there were 5,277 PS2 titles released worldwide" which by simple extropolation means 6000 is a reasonable figure. 84.68.196.85 00:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
If we don't hit all of them, at least we'll know that all the best ones are in there. Just like any reference section. - Keithustus 06:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Also, we'll probably learn from doing this that the "6000" is NOT a reasonable figure, and that it was inflated by including multiple launch countries for the exact same game. This could be the best method to determine how many legitimate, unique games there are. - Keithustus 18:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

I hope you find this chronology as useful as I do, and that if you see anything that's incorrect to please fix it. There are currently 2332 games listed, and each is unique. I could not find one pair of a game mentioned in multiple localizations. Yes, it is a long list. That is what makes it useful--Control-F. If I were to redo this effort, the two things I would have done differently would be to segregate the Japanese and European games into their own sections, and to leave out or hide most of the upcoming games in comments brackets, for use later but without getting in the way before the games are released. Enjoy! - Keithustus 06:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Why some someone want this deleted? It's severely useful information. I don't imagine on there is a page on the genetic code that someone wants deleted because it'll never contain the entire genetic code. Can everyone else please do whatever it is you're supposed to do to keep pages from being deleted? Thanks. - Keithustus 18:28, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

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How exactly is the "primary region" for a game determined? In what sense, for example, is Final Fantasy X considered to be a primarily North American game, when it was created in Japan, in Japanese, by a Japanese company, and released in Japan considerably before its US release? — Haeleth Talk 22:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

You're not using the Japanese-language Wikipedia, are you? Seriously, it should be that NA is the date unless released in Japan only. But I don't relish the idea of looking each game up to verify. - Keithustus 18:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
There is no reason why it should be the North American version eithers, why not the European versions too? Americans are not the only english speakers on the English Wikipedia you know. Timkovski 16:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Because whether you like it or not, North America is the biggest game market in terms of sales (and influence now).
To say something like Final Fantasy has its 'primary region in America' because 'America has a bigger game market' is ridiculous. Everything about Final Fantasy is Japanese, as has been previously stated. To disregard this is incredibly short-sighted. This is an English language wikipedia, not 'Wikipedia for things that only happen in America'.
As this is a 'by date' listing, I'd personally suggest listing the games by where they were released first. For example, if a game was released in Europe first-- say, January--, and Japan/America later in February, then the game should be listed under January as 'EU', even if the game was more 'popular' or 'notable' in Japan/America. Game sales figures or developers nationality are not an influencial factor when listing by order of release date. --CherryMay (talk) 11:17, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

How about, to avoid controversy, you change the entire page to "Chronology of Playstation 2 Games in North America"? If someone wants a European chronology for exampe, they can research & make it themselves? That way, there's no confusion, and you're not misleading anyone by implying that the games were released primarily for North America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.156.36.103 (talk) 17:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Delete

Someone should nominate this for deletion again. There is no reason for this page to exist when there there is List of PlayStation 2 games. TJ Spyke 03:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

How would we possibly be able to determine which games were released before or after others without some kind of comprehensive list like this? The great thing about spreadsheets is that you can sort by whatever variable one needs. Wikipedia, unfortunately, does not have that function. If it did, combining the two lists into a page where you could sort/browse by title, release date, developer, rating, etc. would obviously be beneficial and agreed upon by everyone. For now, this is a very accessable tool to use to understand the history of the PS2 releases. - Keithustus 17:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
The List of PlayStation 2 games can include release dates, something like the List of Virtual Boy games or the List of PlayStation 1 games. I agree with Spyke, this list should be deleted since there's already a list for PlayStation 2 games which could include release dates. If you want to do sorting for each game, use categories. Ceros 01:42, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I will nominate this article for deletion next week. If you don't want it gone, merge it with List of PlayStation 2 games. See List of Wii games for how you can make it so users can sort games by their release date. TJ Spyke 05:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Wow. Thanks for pointing out the severely usefulness of the Wii page. Does someone who uses this page have familiarity with that that they could set up the PS2 code to do that? - Keithustus (talk) 02:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)