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[edit] GA

This is way too short for a GA. It needs photos and has to be much longer. Have fun. --andreasegde 17:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Erm, right. On the image issue, to quote the criteria page, specifically the fifth footnote, "a lack of images does not disqualify the article from GA status." As for the matter of it being 'way to short'- the criteria state only that the article "addresses the major aspects of the topic", and specifically says that "[the criteria] allows shorter articles, articles that do not necessarily outline every part of the topic, and broad overviews of large topics to be listed". What further issues are there to be addressed? If you think that there is any glaring omission from this article, I would appreciate it if you pointed it out. The article was heavily peer reviewed by authors experienced in the matter of heavy metal, and improved according to their suggestions. Finally, there are much shorter GAs out there. I understand that other crap exists is no valid argument, but I would personally say that Good Articles don't fall under the blanket of 'crap'. In any case, thanks for your comments. If you have any further advice, I'm all ears. J Milburn 17:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review

These are the issues that needs to be addressed before I can list this article as GA:

  • The first problem is that the lead does not have any references/citations. WP:LEAD states that an article's lead section needs citations and references. I can see that all the sources are already available in the article's main body, you just need to cite them in the lead.
    • N Not done The consensus on this appears to be that citations are better in the body of the article, and as the lead is meant to be a summary, there should be nothing in it which is not already mentioned elsewhere in the article. To quote the relevent section, "While there is not a citation exception specific to leads, every effort should be made to place citations in the body of the article, and not in the Lead summary." The only things that needed to be cited are quotes and negative information in a BLP, neither of which apply here. J Milburn 12:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • "Shagrath, the lead singer of symphonic black metal band Dimmu Borgir, and Lex Icon, founder of The Kovenant." - cite!
    • See above.
  • "draws heavily upon imagery from the motorcycling subculture." - cite!
    • See above.
  • "Shagrath and Luna have promised that there are more to come" - cite!
    • See above.
  • "Shagrath and Lex Icon once again met up- Lex Icon was now with The Kovenant" - this sentence is awkward and needs fixing.
    • Y Done Better?
  • Do not wikilink things that don't have an article on wikipedia, such as "The Carburetors", "Minis Tirith" and "Panzer Studio".
    • Y Done J Milburn 12:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Please put quotations marks around the statements made by Ken Peace, Jackie Smith and Jeff Maki
    • Y Done J Milburn 12:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Starting from "It was through Nuclear Blast that Doomsday Rock N' Roll was released on 8 August 2006, in North America"... all the way to... "Chrome Division also recorded a music video for the song "Serial Killer" to publicise the album. The video was directed by Patrick Ullaeus, a Swedish director." - this entire paragraph can be put into a new heading. In most biographies of musicians and bands, releasing an album is very significant, hence it should not be titled "History". I recommend a title like "Doomsday Rock N' Roll" or something that represent the release of their first album.
    • Y Done I've split up the whole history section. J Milburn 12:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • "Although there has been no official release on the subject, Shagrath said in an interview with Live-Metal.net that Chrome Division has several new songs, and that they will probably try and produce a new album in mid 2007. Björn Luna also said that there was to be a second album in an interview on MetalEagle.com, and explained that the band has signed a three album contract with Nuclear Blast." - this paragraph can be put into a new title "Future plans".
    • Y Done J Milburn 12:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • If possible, information that addresses the sales figure and chart performances of "Doomsday Rock N' Roll" will be nice additions to the article.
    • N Not done Sorry, I just can't find anything. I guess they would only really announce it if it went gold, and even then, a lot of metal bands wouldn't talk about it, for fear of 'selling out'. J Milburn 12:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
  • There should be a title "External links" at the bottom of the article. You can put in the band's official website, as well as the record company's website and any other reputable related sites.
    • Y Done Would also add AMG, but for some reason, couldn't manage it. J Milburn 12:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm putting this article on hold. The suggested improvements should be made within 7 days. I'll review the article again on 29 September. Oidia (talk) 05:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Pretty good. Oidia (talk) 12:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

Are they a heavy metal band? I thought Chrome was just a rock band.

They call themselves "'80s rock 'n' roll", but if Motorhead are metal, I am pretty certain Chrome Division are. Plenty of reviewers call them heavy metal, I put that in the infobox because All Music Guide, generally a good source, calls them it. J Milburn 15:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I have added a citation to the genre, I am surprised I didn't add one in the first place. It was probably because AMG links are so flaming awkward. J Milburn 16:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)