Talk:Christopher J. Date

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[edit] Remark

Appropriate to mention that he doesn't really have the Internet so it is nearly impossible to contact?

[edit] Notability?

Is the notability tag a joke? C.J. Date is mentioned in about every relational database article in Wikipedia. The article itself states one book sold 700,000 copies of "Introduction to Database Systems". From the notability guidelines: "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors". Pukkie 13:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

No, it's a request for citations to independent secondary sources that establish notability. Mention in wikipedia articles is not useful in this respect. Please see WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:NOTE. Reference some books that cite him; his own book will not do either. Dicklyon 15:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Done. Bob Badour 23:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
All you added was an ext. link to citeseer to show that his book is widely referenced. That's not the same as citations of articles about him. It's a component of notability, but certainly you can do better. Dicklyon 23:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
There's a tag for references - fine, maybe some need adding. Notability on the hand! Do me a favour! This guy is world renowned with or without references. Placing a notability tag on this article is laughable; I've removed it. 86.27.54.199 19:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

OK, I found some sources for you guys who want to demonstrate notability: here are some books. The key was to search for "Chris Date" instead of full name. Anyway, if you add some refs about him, then you can take out the tags that are calling for them. Dicklyon 03:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for granting permission! 86.0.86.79 10:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Your welcome, but I was only trying to help; thanks for adding one ref already. Dicklyon 16:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Dicklyon, I've reverted your last edit in the article because it seems that according to Wikipedia notability guidelines for academics, criterion 3, we probably now have an adequate reference to ensure notability. I accept it's only one reference, but I suggest that's enough. However, if you think otherwise, add the tag again and I'll try and find some more. 82.28.2.210 20:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Obviously, multiple means more than one, but since you've volunteered to work on it, I won't bother with the tag again. Thanks. Dicklyon 22:01, 3 November 2007 (UTC)