Talk:Christopher Eccleston

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[edit] Biography assessment rating comment

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I'd like to see a top photo, but definitely a B.

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 14:28, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Do we have any policy yet on external links to fan sites? There are an awful lot turning up here. --OpenToppedBus - Talk 14:47, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Doctor Who tenure

I've reverted User:Fatso the wombat's removal of the ambiguity of whether Eccleston was the shortest-serving Doctor or not. Although from an actor's standpoint, it's obvious that McGann's TV movie was less than Eccleston's 13-episode series, many Doctor Who fans did consider him the "current" Doctor from 1996 to 2005, which would make Eccleston the shortest-serving actor in the role. It depends on how you define "tenure" in the context of Doctor Who, and I think that the NPOV approach is to mention both interpretations. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

But this article is about Christopher Eccleston, not Doctor Who. It is therefore grossly unfair on Eccleston to suggest that he did less work, or had less screen-time, than McGann. As you so rightly say, from an actor's standpoint there is no doubt that Eccleston did far more, and this article is about him as an actor. Why should McGann even be mentioned at all, except perhaps in passing? TharkunColl 08:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Pursuing the question of screen time is futile, because to do this you would have to (for example) ignore the first 25 minutes (or whatever) of the 1996 Paul McGann TV Movie when counting McGann's contribution, then you would have to discount any scenes where he wasn't present, and even any shots he wasn't present in. ISTM that there are two ways to look at this - one is to count the time when the actor was considered the official Doctor by the BBC (hence you get huge reigns for McCoy and McGann; this is a slightly fannish approach. The other way (which is probably more appropriate to the general readership) is to look at the number of years during which original television stories featuring that actor were broadcast. I think that as this is an Eccleston article, the comment should be shortened, and I have done this. DavidFarmbrough 09:48, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
That's fair. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I've completely removed the discussion about how long he played The Doctor, the article is about Christopher Eccleston, not Doctor Who. Maccy69 16:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Degree?

As far as I can find he studied at Salford Tech (before it was a University) and then the Central School of Speech and Drama [1] in London. See eg [2]. Were was his first from?Billlion 19:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Height?

How tall is he? He seems to tower over all his co-stars. --24.249.108.133 23:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

His agent’s page lists him as being 6’ even (1.83m), so I've updated his height in the InfoBox to match that. He does tend to "look taller" than that on screen, which I believe is due to (a) many other actors being fairly short and (b) his lanky frame. Little Miss Might Be Wrong 23:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo dates

Some of those older photos of Mr. Eccleston really need to be dated. --24.249.108.133 23:05, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joker on Film link dead

This link seems to be dead. Does anyone know another place we can cite? --GracieLizzie 19:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't, but do we really need to mention it? I don't really see how a role he was (apparently) considered for but lost out on is particularly notable. I'm not sure how reliable a source "Jokeronfilm.com" was even when it was up. If there was a behind-the-scenes book on Batman Begins that we could cite saying that he was a contender for the role of the Scarecrow, that would probably be better... but for now, my inclination is just to take the Batman line out completely. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't mind but I do wonder if any outside fansites have sited this article as an source for this fact. I'll wait to see what others think but I wouldn't be that bothered if it was removed. --GracieLizzie 12:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Nothing's been said on this for a while and I agree with the reasoning above, I mean why list a role he was considered for but didn't get? Especially when you consider that through his career there's bound to have been quite a few times when that's happened. And on top of that the site it cites isn't there anymore. So I'm just going to go ahead and remove the line.Number36 22:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Driving Licence

Does it really matter what kind of driving licence he has? Most people in the USA can only drive an automatic.

Yes, but the vast majority of drivers in Britain can use a standard transmission gearbox-Ted

[edit] Vandalism

Some one has heavily vandalised this page.80.41.13.35 20:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC) Never mind. Page was reverted.80.41.13.35 20:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Line is difficult to understand

He was also the first Doctor Who who was actually born after the beginning of the original television series. (He was born two weeks after the famous first Dalek story was first broadcast in the UK).

I had to read this line 3 or 4 times before I realized it was trying to say that Christopher Eccleston was 1st person to portray The Doctor that was born after the original Daleks Serial. I am an American and just started watching the show last year so that may explain why I feel to see the significance of this. If he was born after the show had started period, that would be noteworthy to me. If anyone has any other opinions leave them here, or I will just remove it. 68.226.118.115 02:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

It means he was born after the series started. I've removed it anyway, Doctor Who is only part of Christoper Eccleston's career and it doesn't seem significant to me. Also, it's on the edge of Original Research unless you can site a notable source that found this factoid worthy of mention. Maccy69 16:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What's with the unicorns?

Someone seems to have vandalized this page by subbing in the word 'unicorn' in several places. From reading comments it sounds like this isn't the first time someone has taken liberties with the page, and it was restored once before. If someone could restore it again, that would be fantastic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.228.58.127 (talk) 09:08:56, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Destro in G.I. Joe

I was just reading at the Wizard forums that Eccleston is going to be Destro in the G.I. Joe movie. http://wizarduniverse.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=19953 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.206.136.223 (talk) 03:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Older twin brothers

The article made reference to Ecclestone having older twin brothers. I have removed the word twin, since it is impossible to have more than on twin brother, anymore would be triplets, etc. More informed editors can edit to clarify. Hiding T 11:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] IPA

I seriously doubt that he pronounces his name like this. Users unfamiliar with IPA should not enter phonetic transcriptions of names. I believe that, if there is nothing unusual in his name or the way he pronounces it, there should be no IPA entry at all. The way it is set here now (IPA: /'krɪs-toʊ-fɜr ˈɛk-kʌlz-tʌn/) is definitely wrong. If nobody objects I shall remove it. Iago4096 12:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Just saw that there has been some reverting going on on this matter. I do not support val42's point. Wrong information is definitely worse than no information. I would NOT put it in because it is redundant information. Nobody would mispronounce the name. The is no IPA-info for John Wayne or Will Smith, but there is some for Cynewulf and Giuseppe Verdi, because the first two are simple to be pronounced correctly by a modern speaker of English, but the latter two are not necessarily so. The correct pronunciation for Christopher Ecclestone would be 'krɪstɒfɜr ˈɛklstən. Put it in, if you absolutely have to. Iago4096 12:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
My point was an attempt at good information is better than no information. (That is what Wikipedia is about, after all.) Then those who know better come along and make a correction. (That is also what Wikipedia is about.) Someone put the original pronunciation phonetically, not using IPA. I changed it to IPA. I have also made your correction on the article page, because it is better.
I also think that the pronunciation is needed. A Doctor Who fan that works in the same building as I do pronounces Ecclestone's last name as ɛkˈləstiːn (with emphasis on the second syllable), from the very first time he said Ecclestone's name. I then told him how I pronounce it. Watching the DVD extras, I found out how Eccleston pronounces his own name, which is what I had used. Because of my experience, I think that the correct pronunciation should be used. However, the pronunciation first name could certainly be removed because it is a common name. — Val42 (talk) 04:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)