Talk:Christian hip hop
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[edit] Dear Slim
would you say that eminem listened to it and got the message? If u listen to Evil Deeds on his album Encore you can hear some reffrence to christianity such as "Father please forgive me for i kno not wat i do, I just never ever had the chance to ever meet you". Please Respond —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.100.143 (talk) 11:07, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List
needs list of prominent artists. ReverendG 00:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
yes please merge "christian hip hop" and "holy hip hop" - but PLEASE do NOT list under "Holy Hip Hop" that sounds so dorky. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djp72 (talk • contribs)
Now...just because something sounds dorky does not mean people do not use it. But I would have to agree that Holy Hip Hop sometimes is used to described religious related hip hop like Islam. Under the old mp3.com website they had the section for Christian hip hop under spiritual hip hop.
[edit] Unexplained deletions
Please give some explanation as to why history should be deleted. Paul foord 14:37, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
you guys need to listen to DMX's song lord give me a sign if you want to listen to some real christian rap.
[edit] Please Explain
likewise the secular hip hop community has also at times persecuted Christian hip hop artists and followers.
This sentence reeks of NPOV, either we should scrap that sentence or add sources.
- Yes, it does "reek of NPOV," because it was written from a neutral point of view. I'm sure you meant that it is the writer's point of view, but that's beside the point. Unfortunately, it is true that many Christian emcees (most infamously D-Boy) have been persecuted by secular hip hop artists and crews. That's probably where the term "sucker emcee" came from. |phantasy phanatik|talk|contribs|
Not true. The term "sucker emcee" goes back farther than Danny boy.
[edit] D-Boy's death
Is there a reliable cite for D-Boy being killed due to evangalizing the gangs? All reliable sources I can find say it was a case of mistaken identity or the motive for his killing was unknown. Ashmoo 02:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Most recent source I could find quoted his mother as saying there was no definitive motive given/culprit found. I've changed that in the article.GBrady (talk) 17:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Intro too long
Some of the intro needs to be moved to the article. At present it is very unbalanced hjaving an intro as long as the article. Whats with all the links to clothiong brands etc. It looks a lot like spam to me? David D. (Talk) 06:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- i notice an anon IP reverted back to the bad old version that had an overlong intro and tons of spam links. i have reverted it bac to the last good version by LeinadSpoon. This is not acceptable format on wikipedia. Articles should not become link farms. David D. (Talk) 06:45, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Corrected Info. about D-Boy's Murder
Per the Dallas Morning News (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-cookie_08met.ART.State.Edition2.e26d8ac.html), Danny Rodriguez "D-Boy" was murdered in 1990 when he was leaving his apartment complex. Police have never apprehended a suspect and the motive for the killing is not known.
I have fixed that portion of the D-Boy article. I'm having some trouble getting the footnotes in there so if someone can explain to me how to do that, I'll try and properly source it. Also, the article provided me some great additional details to add to the article...renaming Street Church after D-Boy, the 2006 tribute concert etc. Does anyone know more about what that tribute CD was called, who was on it, who participated at the concert, etc.? GBrady (talk) 14:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- The D-Boy tribute album was titled Fallen Soldier. To mark a footnote, include the footnote directly in the paragraph you intend to footnote (where you want the number to display), and surround it with <ref> and </ref> tags. Jpers36 (talk) 17:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Other rappers
One of the most ironic quirks of rap artists, given their usual lyrics - look through the liner notes to most US RAP/Hip Hop. You will find the artist/band thanking god. I think Geto Boys are the best example of this 164.143.244.34 17:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Opinion or Fact?
...two groups emerged in this new scene that not only had the "gospel" / "Christian" part, but also had the credible skills and "street wise" artistry to make an impact in the secular or mainstream scene as well...
This section in particular seems to just be blind assertion. Whether someone is 'street-wise' or not is a matter of opinion. A better way of framing this would be if you found someone of prominence in the hip hop community who expressed this point of view.
Before The Cross Movement, many of the artists in the genre were passive, speaking of Christ only when necessary.
Can this be supported with a citation? This seems to be a VERY POV statement as well as very dismissive of the intent of old-school Christian rappers from the late 80s/early 1990s as well. I'd like to see this drastically reworded unless it can be cited.GBrady (talk) 17:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] First Hip Hop Worship Album?
How is Rawsrvnt's album, "In Rare Form" listed as the first Hip Hop Worship Album? Wasn't Hip Hop Praise's album "Sinner's Prayer" way before that? This article seems to have a lot of fake statements like this one, and I'm concerned the credibility simply isn't here. 141.151.175.91 20:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
How do I post to this discussion page as there is no such option? The only option I have is to edit other people's posts!
- You may start a new discussion by clicking the edit this page link at the top and adding a new level 2 sectional heading at the bottom. Alternatively, you may click the (+) sign next to the edit link to start a new discussion. :) aJCfreak yAk 06:58, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The "Holy Hip Hop Database" agrees with User above that "Hip Hop Praise" from MG the Visionary was the first hip hop worship album. 2000 is given as release date: "He also produced and recorded the project "Sinner's Prayer" released in 2000, which is the first praise hip hop album." IN RARE FORM wasn't released until 2006.GBrady (talk) 15:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "Rev. Rap" really first?
I've seen the name "Plain White Rapper" mentioned as an early cassette only Christian rap release but I haven't been able to find a definitive source yet. Anyone familiar with that tape know its year of release? GBrady (talk) 17:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
