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[edit] Dropped out of Duke?

The background section says that Daly attended Duke university but does not say if he graduated. Upon following the link in the external links section I noticed that it says "Attended Duke University but dropped out after 5 semesters." http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0198424/bio If that is true should it not be included in this article? BillyTFried 07:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Labeling someone a college dropout should be sourced solidly. I'm sure IMDb is great and all that but maybe his bio would be a good place to back that. Benjiboi 17:01, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Ask and you shall receive. Daly did drop out of college. Follow this link [1] to an article from the SF Chronicle referencing this event. Or perhaps you would like a more "balanced" reference [2] considering how conservative and anti-Daly the Chronicle really is... --69.239.229.46 18:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Looks good to me, just keep it all in perspective. Benjiboi 18:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I could not agree more. In fact, I am not sure if it is all that important. If other people think it is then may I suggest the following language.."Daly attended Duke University but did not graduate. While at Duke, he was part of an effort...." --69.239.229.46 19:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some stuff missing from this article

A bunch can be found here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/07/15/MN215206.DTL&hw=chris+daly+duke&sn=001&sc=1000

  • His exact date of birth
  • (FAMILY) Born to a mother who is an accountant and a father who was a midlevel federal bureaucrat
  • Was drawn to service as a teenager through the 4-H club
  • Was valedictorian of his High School class
  • Worked as a bartender in the Western Addition in SF
  • Was arrested at a sit-in at Hastings College of the Law.

And here's a great quote by the "Passionate Activist/Hothead"

“ ""I don't like the way I've become, in some ways," Daly said over coffee -- lots of sugar -- in a Tenderloin cafe. "I used to be the most patient person I know. I'm not anywhere near as patient. I'm not as nice." ”

BillyTFried 21:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, please sign whoever added this, second, that quote is terribly POV and if you're not aware of it you need to research a bit more about writing what is considered a good article. we are not a tabloid but an encyclopedia, as much fun as slinging muck might seem we don't do it and we don't need to do it. let someone else and we will simply cover the subject of an article dispassionately. Benjiboi 21:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

A quote of what the man says about himself is POV? Basically admitting to and even complaining about his own "Controversial Demeanor"? And are you accusing me of "slinging muck" for including that quote here on the Talk Page? BillyTFried 22:01, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

That particular quote seems to be chosen to show the subject of the article in a less than flattering light (I'm less patient and not as nice) and was been stated about the photo it doesn't seem to actually add anything to this encyclopedia. It might seem like a great quote to some, I would call it a quote that needs work at best. I will also self-disclose that I've actually met the guy at quite a few events and I've never seen him act anything other than completely gracious just like every other politico except he seemed to maybe interact with the regular crowd more. I will simply extend a bucketful of good faith that all the editors here want to see this be a stellar article and as part of that will work to presenting this bio of a living person in a NPOV and balanced manner. Benjiboi 01:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't really suggesting adding that quote by Daly. Just posted it for informational purposes on this talk page. All of the bulleted info I've added above however belongs in this article. BillyTFried 03:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Well I am glad to see that however this page is to discuss improving the attached article so posting stuff that seems overtly POV could easily be seen as POV pushing which we should probably avoid. You obviously know how to add material so why not simply add those bulleted points and ref them at the same time? Benjiboi 15:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I have to disagree with adding the bulleted stuff. He is just a supervisor after all. What he has done as a politician is more important than if he was in 4-H or was a bartender. Anyways, the article is pretty big already. --Friscocab 22:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Disagree. A bio is certainly an appropriate place to include possible motivations and achievements. Article length should never be a determining factor in improving an article and numerous solutions can address length issues if needed. Benjiboi 02:58, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Agree with Friscocab and BillyTFried. The article reads like autobio as it is. Adding clean-up tags. GridiotinSanFranciski 03:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Just FYI, BillyTFried is for including those items and Friscocab is not. Benjiboi 03:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I was referring to the quote, as in "I wasn't really suggesting adding that quote by Daly." - BillyTFried, etc. Thanks. Out, GridiotinSanFranciski 03:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Not an issue as we all seem to agree it shouldn't be included. Benjiboi 06:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I support the bullet points, though, to improve and expand the article. GridiotinSanFranciski 09:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
As do I. Benjiboi 09:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)