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[edit] Vocal style section
"Cornell's vocal expression is often compared to that of AC/DC's Brian Johnson and Bon Scott, a perfect example of his high pitched 'scream-like' vocal abilities is beautifully portrayed in the song "Say Hello To Heaven". One may conclude through careful observation and analysis that his rather unique ability has degraded over the years, nevertheless is still a 'more than above average' vocalist as demonstrated in various Audioslave's song such as Cochise, Show Me How To Live and many more. His involvement in the supergroup "Temple of the Dog" is undoubtedly one of his best performance and is also considered one of the finest rock album in context to vocal capabilities. Cornell's voice does not rely solely on volume, however, as his melodic vocals on Euphoria Morning drew critical acclaim as much as his more agressive vocals in Soundgarden. This quieter approach may be due to the damage his screaming technique has caused his vocal chords over time, but it serves as a testament to Cornell's dynamic versatility nonetheless."
I do not think this is NPOV.
Wholeheartedly agree. I am a fan of Chris Cornell, thus the fact that I am reading the page, and actively contributing to the discussion. However, the 'Vocal Style' section is highly editorial and biased, full of opinion. Even the two points that claim to be official (the AC/DC comparison, and the critical acclaim of Euphoria Morning) are completely unreferenced. I feel the section adds nothing to the larger article, and thus I am removing it (for now). ~~
Removed extraneous material about Cornell hitting notes, derived from a blog that quotes the Wikipedia article. Circular. Anyone can throw up a footnote referencing something, but it must be professional. ~Fendermatt 1/3/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fendermatt (talk • contribs) 06:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Guitar
I'm getting rid of this:
"With Soundgarden, Chris used a Gretsch guitar"
In the liner notes of Badmotorfinger is says that Chris plays Gibson Guitars. I have seen live videos of SG, such as the one of Spoonman, in which Chris plays a black Telecaster, and Jesus Christ Pose , where he plays a green Les Paul. He's used loads of guitars, so there's no point having that section in there.
[edit] Chris Cornell has scrapped his site for a Myspace.com profile.
Proof: http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/cornell_chris/artist.jhtml
The link to his profile is in there.
And I will fix the link to his site which is in the article. Shady_Joe
[edit] Miscellaneous comments
Chris Cornell is perhaps the best singer/songwriter in rock music today.
i put more info on this article. feel free to add or change it. KeyLime 04:33, 27 October 2005
I second that top statement. - The Great Gavini Cornell forever!
"Cornell himself gained nearly as much fame as Soundgarden during this decade, chiefly due to his singing abilities and vocal range. His ability to "belt" a note, almost screaming it is well used, giving his baritonal range an often much louder, or "higher" sound. This is shown to much effect on Ultramega OK's "Beyond the Wheel," Badmotorfinger's "Slaves & Bulldozers" and the title track from Superunknown. [2]"... This section looks like it was written by the same guy who wrote similar stuff about Layne Staley, somewhat below the quality for a professional article- more like a fanzine bit. I removed it, b/c it's clearly an insert and opinion, instead of fact, based. Fendermatt 07:22, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Peter Cornell
"The similarity in their voices is uncanny" Ummm... no it isn't. Beve 07:26, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I found their Myspace, and listened to the three songs they have on there. I haven't listened to the early Soundgarden music (sorry if I sinned), but listen for yourself. I'm not sure if Peter does sound like his brother when he was in Soundgarden, but look for yourselves: www.myspace.com/blackmarketradio . Xihix 23:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I've ditched this. I don't think they do sound that similar, and even if they do it's hardly "uncanny", since they are brothers! In any case, it doesn't seem very encyclopaedic in tone; it should be enough to say that he has a brother who is also in a band. Beve 05:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Civilian Project
No mention of it? ~ UBeR
Is it notable? Civilian was just the working name for the band Audioslave in it's formative weeks/months, but was dropped because there was already a band called Civilian who were unwilling to sell the rights to the name. There was already a band called Audioslave as well, but they were willing to sell the name. Beve 17:56, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Plagarism
The whole section on the new album looks like it may have been plagarized from: http://www.virus-mag.com/index.php?sn=&a=4685 or Chris Cornell's Myspace page (blog.myspace.com/chriscornell)
[edit] Factual Inaccuracy
"Chris is the first American male to sing the theme song for a James Bond movie." Tom Jones, A-ha and Duran Duran have sung songs for James Bond movies, to name a few. Removing note.--Nog64 04:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Didn't see the word American.--Nog64 04:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Unless you count "We Have All the Time in the World" to be the theme song of On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Which some do. But it wasn't over the opening credits, apparently. So there ya go. ConDemTalk 04:36, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello. Im very new to all this editing and posting but i was wondering if someone a bit more experienced could add an article under Black Calavados since there isn't one? Its the restaurant chris cornell now helps to run. You can find more information under www.blackcalavados.com. Thanks!
SiniMy 08:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Shemps
Revision is needed concerning the year when Chris Cornell joined the Shemps. Cox's Music Choice says 1984 while the "Unofficial Soundgarden Homepage" says 1982. I doubt 1993 is true for the Shemps turned into Soundgarden sort of and Soungarden is way older than 1993. --Sakkath 18:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Why was the whole entire section removed? --Sakkath 02:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] we should keep the picture of chris cornell
you know, the one when he has bleached blond hair. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Windmaker999 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Carry On (Chris Cornell album).jpg
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[edit] pic of chris
even though i like the current pic of chris, i reckon we need a more recent one ▓░ Dark Devil ░▓ ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) 08:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC) scrap that, the picture's pretty decent now
[edit] unplugged in sweden
hey does anyone know about the unplugged in sweden album? was it an actual official release cuz its not listed on here?
-nup its a bootleg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.67.3 (talk) 08:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Someone should nominate This Article then.Vicco Lizcano (talk) 22:04, 4 March 2008 (UTC) (Hey! Listen!)
[edit] jewish tag???
what the f*ck is with the jewish tag??????
- His mother is Jewish. Jobe6 03:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Is he a practicing Jew? Or did he take up his father's religion? Or is he an atheist? Frvernchanezzz (talk) 09:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- he did a cover of "Ave Maria" for a charity Christmas album sometime in the late 90s or early 2000s so I'm assuming he's Christian of some type, probably Catholic because he was raised that but he could've converted. However, the Jewish tag may still be appropriate because he is ethnically half-Jewish. Sherlock32 (talk) 21:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Removal of "unofficial" site links
I would like to ask those who have repeatedly removed fansite links from this article to reconsider what they are doing. I can't speak for other fansite owners, but my site at www.chriscornell.org.uk has been linked from this page for almost a year and is a recognised resource for information on Chris Cornell, especially up-to-date information. Removing it simply reduces the amount of info available to those who come to the page looking for news, interviews, tour dates and other time-sensitive information. Like many other fansites, at present it actually contains more information than the official site and has enjoyed cooperation from the artist and those who have worked with him.
It's unfair to say including such a link is a form of advertising or a conflict of interest of any kind. I don't actually wish to be this pompous, but needs must when the devil drives. As a music journalist I have been seen to be knowlegeable on Chris Cornell, have interviewed him several times and written a number of published features on him in the press. The site is non-profit and an entirely voluntary effort and material from it has been used on this page and on other Cornell-related pages within Wikipedia. It's really the equivalent for Cornell's solo career to the excellent "Unofficial Soundgarden Home Page" which has always been linked from the Wikipedia Soundgarden page, for example. Presumably you aren't going to remove that, as for now it's now the only information resource available on Soundgarden.
I hope you will agree to reinstate the link, and preferably any other fansite links which you have recently removed. There are several unofficial sites in existence dealing with different aspects of the artist's music and career and they have been set up within the fan community to complement each other rather than to compete.Clarefromscotland (talk) 00:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Do we know who has made the music videoes. Im talking about directores now. i need it to Chris Cornell discography page on Norsk (bokmål) wikipedia. --Wellwater Conspiracy (talk) 15:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Velvet Revolver
SO MANY PEOPLE want Chris in there instead. Rolling Stone's poll ranked him most wanted to join VR. Is this worth mentioning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.169.21 (talk) 03:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Center For Disease Control Boys
Chris was a member of Center For Disease Control Boys in the 80's. You can see it her on the Soundgarden Homepage --Wellwater Conspiracy (talk) 18:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC).
[edit] Musical education
I've been reading the Cornell and Soundgarden entries, and I have to say that the information pertaining to his musical education and the switch from drums to guitar in Soundgarden is a bit disappointing. That's major. He's a great songwriter and a solid guitarist, yet Wikipedia contains nothing about it. I can't believe he didn't talk about this in interviews, or through discussions with the many people he has known throughout his career. Why isn't it here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.120.60 (talk) 03:45, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Temple of the Dog - separate section?
This strikes me as more than a little awkward. The Musical Career section is obviously organized by bandmates rather than chronology, which is more than a bit counterintuitive to the very idea of a career biography.
Perhaps the Temple of the Dog stuff ought to be moved to its appropriate place in the Musical Career? The existence of Temple of the Dog is a significant event in CC's career during the Soundgarden years, and the brief sentence on a one-off stage appearance with Pearl Jam hardly seems significant enough to justify maintaining its own separate projects section.
Thoughts? DigiFluid (talk) 00:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Single articles
Why the f**k are the single articles so short. I've just made Release And Reception', Live performance and Chart positions and i've worked on You Know My Name. The only thing i'm saying is whats the point to keep the single articles if it only has to sentences. --Freedom (song) (talk) 15:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
