Talk:Chopsocky

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[edit] Disparaging

I noticed that my addition that the term is a "disparaging" against martial arts cinema has been edited to imply that it "could" be used as one. I am leaving the note here to let whoever did edit it to know that the term without a doubt is disparaging. Being a fan of the genre for many years, it is not a word that is used to flatter the genre and was specifically created to put down the films during the boom in the 70s in the US where the films were released in exploitative fashion with badly made English dubs that made the movies look bad. 9th Gate 16:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. I also have been a fan for many years and we used it to distinguish between Asian and non-Asian martial arts movies. I agree there are many who use the term for it's negative implications but there are exceptions and this should be noted. FrankWilliams 17:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Right now, there is OR (entomology isn't documented in a reliable source) and inappropriate tone ("(aka non-fans)"). — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 19:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll edit out the "non-fans" part, but I disagree very much that the term is somehow accepted or even a flattering name to the genre. While some unfortunately use it thinking it means no harm, it's very origin was created to mock the films during the martial arts boom of the 70s in the US when the films were released in less the flattering manner (and also some not so flattering films). The fact that someone else wrote for this entry in the second paragraph with this, "The term was usually characterized by over-blown story-lines, cheesy special effects, and excessive violence" solidifies the fact that the term is disparaging.

This is similar and comparable to how anime fans detest the word "Japanimation" even though the general mainstream media continually use it a if it were an acceptable name. 9th Gate 01:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

"over-blown story-lines, cheesy special effects, and excessive violence" doesn't necessary mean the reviewer doesn't like it. So it's not necessarily disparaging. Grassynoel 04:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology

From Chop-suey + sock (=punch), I think. Grassynoel 04:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)