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[edit] WTF
Why was this page deleted? Is there a way to get it back?! Mjl0509 21:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
So, according to the deletion log, there was a copyright violation, but that's no reason to delete an entire page. Seriously, whoever did that, shame on you, now we have to build the whole page back. F-Minus, whoever you are. Mjl0509
- Must have been a Deerfield graduate. I hear they're not too bright. :) Frankg 17:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I've tried to put the copywright free section back as best i could. it at least gives us something to work with. Dbloys 17:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
As I told Mjl0509 on my talk page, many reversions had the copyvio text, so our only course was to delete and start from scratch. No bias was involved. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:24, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- However, I am going through the history now (it still exists, but only admins can see it) ans try to include as much as I can find, such as infoboxes, categories, interwiki links, etc. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
this page needs some work, I went through and edited grammar, but it's lacking a lot of substance. flagitious 06:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- That's fine, keep on editing it. I have no plans to edit it myself. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Assess
Why was the Choate page deleted?
Old US school with impressive alumni. Needs more refs and topics to be a B 81.178.123.240 08:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Page Cleanup
I just visited this page for the first time in a while and found some questionable changes had been made. I've gone through and cleaned things up, paying special attention to the Prominent Alumni section (there were some names on the list whose "prominence" was debatable). JoanneC 4:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Clearly the dates in the history section are made up, otherwise Chris Columbus would have been met on the shores and told, sorry, he didn't qualify for admittance. Don't know what the right ones are though.
- Already fixed it. Frankg 13:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
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how exactly is ted kazinski an american hero?
[edit] Vandalism/NPOV
Watch this place. Deerfield's "Choate Day" is on November 11, 2006 this year, and the rivalry is intense on both countsy. I'm a DA student, and I take Wikipedia pretty seriously, so watch this place. Theirs going to be a lot of vandalism on both these pages. Choate and Deerfield do have a rivalry established sometime in the 70s. I have to dig up the article about that as a source though.
The part in the "overview" section about the rivalry with Deerfield is blatantly not NPOV. There is also significant vandalism ("retarded") in the "Prominent alumni" section. I don't know enough about Choate to clean up this article myself.Trojanpony 00:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] arts center photo
Tls, I'm relatively new to this, so if my attempts at removing and replacing your photo were awkward or inappropriate, I'm very sorry. I'm still getting the hang of things. I certainly did not mean to offend anyone. As for not responding to your initial request to discuss the matter, I simply wasn't aware of it; but I realize now that you have some concerns, and of course I'm more than happy to address them. As for the image that you uploaded...I just don't feel that it matches the look or style of the other two photos on the page (which is why I tried to replace it with another image). Again, I'm still learning the editing protocol here, so please bear with me. If you have any suggestions about how best to proceed, I'd be interested in hearing them. Thanks. 15:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] no problem, glad we could work it out
Joanne -- I think I agree with you, the page may look better without that particular image of the Arts Center, particularly because the way most browsers lay the page out with the image tags in the order they're in, the Arts Center picture ends up below the horizontal line in the "External Links" page, which looks weird. I am not so skilled at Wikipedia either and I don't know how to deal with this kind of page layout issue but I'll do some experiments. If I can't figure out anything that looks better I'll just put the page back how you had it.
Let me play with it for a day or two, if you don't mind. Maybe it would look better with your picture of the building instead of mine, if I can get the layout working OK for a horizontal image at all. I mostly uploaded my image for the building's own page and for the I.M. Pei page gallery -- it's shot square to the building so the perspective is correct, which is what you want for an architecture page -- not so important here at all really. But the building is the major campus landmark if you come through on Xtian street and I think it would be nice to have some picture of it here -- if it can be done without looking bad.
Just please don't repeatedly revert changes without using the discussion page or, at least, descriptive edit summaries; I'll do the same...
Thanks! Tls 16:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] okay, that's fair enough
Tls, your solution sounds like a good one. I won't revert your changes to the photo - I promise! Thanks for being understanding. Good luck with the layout...
JoanneC 12:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] layout tweaked for PMAC image
I did a bunch of complicated things with tables for which I had high hopes -- ended up fighting with MediaWiki's own layout engine for about an hour, then gave up. So I tried shuffling the order of the images and making the horizontal one wider. I think that worked. The key is to not let MediaWiki see a break between images anywhere near where it wants to put a horizontal line, or it will run it right through there and make things look odd. As it turns out, the horizontal image (if it's the middle of the 3) can take up as much of the space over left towards the long list of alumni as necessary; I limited it to 300 pixels because otherwise it looks too large next to the other pictures.
Hope this works -- and it gives us a decent way to accomodate whatever other horizontal image on the page if we want to, too. Swap the image out for yours if you want, though I think with this layout mine looks OK -- or if you think it still looks funny let me know! Tls 21:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] page layout
Tls, I appreciate all of the time that you spent working on the layout, but I do still think something's off. If you don't mind, I'm going to try fiddling with it a bit in the sandbox (and in the process I may upload my photo of the arts center). Please give me a day or two to experiment, and then let me know what you think. Thanks, JoanneC 12:16, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] uploading images
Joanne, the thing is, you uploaded your image over mine again, which caused mine to be replaced in the other places I was using it. The right thing to do is to use a different name for your image -- you'd already uploaded it with a different name -- and then switch the image name in this page so it shows your image. I'll fix it that way in a minute. Uploading a new version of an existing image replaces that image everywhere it's used, not just on this page, so it's not the best way to do it.
Cutting the number of images to two and leaving one horizontal tightened up the page a lot. I like the way it looks. Tls 17:22, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] images
Tls, I'm glad that you like the new layout; I think it finally looks right. I didn't realize that uploading a new version of an image replaces that image everywhere else -- I apologize. I hope that it's not too much trouble for you to fix it. JoanneC 16:21 28 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] More NPOV issues
Someone added, "Choate is widely regarded by most as the top ranked private secondary school in the United States." While I think few would argue that Choate is among the top schools, what's the factual basis for indicating that it is the top school? I'm guessing there have been at least some rankings or polls done...can anyone dig them up? (As a Choate alum, I don't disagree, but it would be good to justify the claim!) Frankg 08:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] top 3
id say the top 3 schools would probably be exeter, andover, st pauls. not necesarily in that order
[edit] top by what criterion?
If it's "how selective for admissions" I think your list is probably about right -- I seem to remember (this is now thinking back 15 years, so maybe I remember wrong) that Groton was also famously hard to get into. And maybe this is what matters to the snob set. By other criteria -- who knows? I mean, you could use "excellence at ice hockey" as a criterion and then you'd get Avon as the top school, or something; by admissions to top-ranked colleges, there are probably day schools in major cities that do better than the best prep schools do, or at least as well, which just muddies the water. The "the top" statement is hopelessly NPOV and should stay out.
[edit] ="Eight" Schools==
Taken from the King's Academy website (it's Deerfield Academy's sister school, founded by ex-Headmaster Eric Widmer under the auspices of the Royal Court of Jordan: "The “Eight Schools” of America—Andover, Choate, Deerfield, Exeter, Hotchkiss, Lawrenceville, Northfield/ Mt. Hermon and St. Paul’s—have already affirmed a “philosophical affiliation” with King’s. Next year, as we open, we will be invited to join the G20 group of select schools on every continent..."
These can be typically characterized as the "Ivy League" of prep schools.
[edit] Course Offerings
Is there a reason that ethics is listed, but art, philosophy and religion are not? I'd like to change this, unless anyone objects. CB21982 21:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Popular Culture References
Should this article include a section listing references to Choate in popular culture? I don't find this addition objectionable, but user 76.170.57.21 has removed it without explanation. CB21982 07:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clubs
We do not need a list of all 81 clubs offered, especially because most other prep schools (indeed, most public high schools) offer a similar plethora of distractions to keep the little darlings off the streets. Mjl0509 (talk) 02:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I have removed it. Additionally: reference to the fact that Choate has lots of clubs (which I think is sufficient to cover this issue) has already been made earlier in the article. Plus, this is making the article obscenely long. Mjl0509 (talk) 02:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] PC Garbage
What is this line supposed to mean? "students of color making up approximately 30 percent of the student body" Does that mean 30% of the students are black, or that 30% of the students are "not white?" Either way, the statement is too over-the-top euphamistic. Either state that 30% of the students are black if that is the case (Call them African American if you must, but keep in mind that this school attracts non-Americans), state that 30% of the students are not Caucasian if that is the case, or just state that 70% of the students are white. "Students of colour" is so obnoxiously ambiguous as to prevent understanding of what is to be conveyed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmprantz (talk • contribs) 17:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
