User talk:ChicJanowicz

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[edit] WikiProkect College football

Hello, I noticed that you have edited a College football related article. You may be interested to know that there is a college football WikiProject which you can join if you like. We would love to have you! --NMajdan•talk 21:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OSU Football

Thanx for your contributions thus far to Ohio State Buckeyes football. I created this article because the only one of similar stature is USC's--thus far I think we've done them better. I am trying to meticulously footnote also but it's tedious to say the least. I've also been putting off the history, then that's a task and will probably wind up a separate article with a brief summary on the football page. --Buckboard 01:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, just saw your edit about Jack Ryder. Nice find on the full name. I just read your article too, good stuff. If you come across it, did Lilley coach the fall of 1890 since Ryder didn't? --Buckboard 02:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] *The* Ohio State University

Changing Ohio State University to "the Ohio State University" is boosterism. Don't insert your school's marketing slogan into Wikipedia. Rcade 16:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

  • What you call a "marketing slogan," others simply call a name. It may be "boosterism" but if so it was the boosterism of a state legislature of the 19th century. In any case, the University does not need the approval of a Wikipedia user to use its full and proper name. ChicJanowicz 01:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
    That may be. But please do not use the edit summary "rvv" to revert a good-faith edit, as you did here, and please do not edit war. If there is difference of opinion about this issue, then there should be a centralized discussion about it, perhaps at WT:MOS. Personally I don't care either way, but mass reversions are not a way forward. Chick Bowen 03:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
    • He needs to review this page -- the word "the" is not to be used in university names, even when the school has declared it part of the official name. The standard to follow here is Wikipedia's, not the individual school's. If he wants to change the rule, he needs to do so through the normal process, not by editing errors into the encyclopedia. Rcade 13:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
      Mr. Rcade, you misunderstand the link you referenced. The naming conventions page refers to the titles of the Wikipedia articles. It does not refer to how the schools are to be mentioned within the articles. Every one of the schools listed is discussed using "the" within the body of each article. For example, the article titled University of Chicago refers to the University of Chicago within the article. ChicJanowicz 01:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
    • I added a mediation case to give mediators a chance to weigh in on this. Rcade 14:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - amusingly enough, Rcade's autobiography, Rogers Cadenhead, includes a reference to his alma mater, "the University of North Texas." TheMindsEye 02:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

You say you're putting it there because it's part of the official name - fine. In that case though, it needs to be capitalised. Aleta 02:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Chic, Regarding the increased emphasis of the "The" by the university, I was told by no less an authority than Ed Jennings himself that it was done specifically to subtly get the point out that Ohio State had a historically different role than the other public U's. With Rhodes still in office, Ohio State couldn't blatantly proclaim themselves a "flagship" university, so this was done to gradually lay the psychological groundwork for the steps the university would take later in the 80's after Rhodes had left office and his appointees to the OSU board went into the minority. Admittedly, it was a small part of an overall campaign to undo the damage that Rhodes had done to the university over 20 years.

You are right that flunk out rates soared during the dark days of open admissions. I beleive that this was simply an unintended consequence of Rhodes' policies. His stated goals for the university were 100K enrollment and open admissions. I just have a hard time not viewing the fanatical manner in which he went about "dumbing down" the state's flagship university as not being psychologically connected to his own failures at Ohio State.--Sam Harmon 20:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bobby Watkins

Hi, I saw your new dab page - thanks! - and I changed it a little to follow WP:MOSDAB. --AndrewHowse (talk) 13:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copy-n-Paste Moves

Please do not make copy-n-paste moves as you did with Bob Babich to Bob Babich (football coach). Copy-n-paste moves shouldn't be done as they disassociate the edit history which causes GFDL compliance issues. You should move pages instead. I have fixed this one. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)