Talk:Chiune Sugihara

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What we know as "Sugihara" was a team work. Sugihara cooperated with the Polish itelligence. Polish officers of Home Army produced false Japan visas using Sugihara's ones. The majority of those people died murdered by the Germans, Soviets and Polish Communists. Polish embassy in Japan helped the refugees. Why did the authors remove any trace of Polish part in "Sugihara" action? Probably because the source was his wife, who ignored secret part of Sugihara's activities.

• I'm afraid that this point is not widely accepted or at least not famous. If this is "too secret" cooperation (ie. there is no reliable evidence because - conveniently - the others involved are dead) it is "too secret" for wikipedia. If it is something you or somebody has independently researched, it falls under "original research" which is also unsuitable for Wikipedia. If you want to include it, state clearly the source (ie. according to whom) - Skysmith 14:56, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ministry

The ministry of Foregin Affairs was replaced in 1940. I find the statement "The Japanese Foreign Ministry, still needing Chiune's language and organizational skills, decided to postpone disciplinary action until his skills were no longer needed" speculative. It doesn't also precise, which of the ministries is being mentioned where in the text.

• Please sign your posts with "~~~~" after the message. If you find it speculative, correct it. Citing your sources also helps - Skysmith 14:56, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

I have removed the statement that Sugihara was the only Asian named "Righteous among the Nations". There were two others, Dr. Feng-Shan Ho, the Chinese consul in Vienna from 1938-1940, and Pan Jun-Shun. See http://www1.yadvashem.org/righteous/bycountry/china.html. Bill 20:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] According to ..., Sugihara would have cooperated

You aren't quoting "The Sun" but an academic work. Xx236 13:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sugihara "saving" Jews

From all the materials I read about this affair I haven't found any evidence that either Sugihara or the Jews he helped were aware of an imminent German attack on the Soviet Union. The intention, I think, of those Jewish refugees from Poland applying for transit visas was to leave the Soviet Union. The fact that the number of those seeking visas reached its peak in the months immediately following Lithuanian ascension to the USSR, to support my suspicion. Indeed, if Jews thought Germany would soon overrun border areas they could have move to interior regions of the Soviet Union. Sugihara, though as a diplomat working for the Japanese intelligence, he certainly was in a better position to learn about the underlying political developments, but in August 1940 Hitler had yet to make any definite plans to invade the USSR, so even he was unlikely to know anything. In light of this, I suggest that all references to him saving Jews are removed from the article.

71.222.26.122 00:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC) Abram Schlimper

• I was about to ask that myself. The only people Sugihara seemed to be saving Jews from were communists, he stopped about a year before the German invasion. Woscafrench (talk) 18:48, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

You are correct on both points. As for the preceeding remark, following Lithuanian ascension to the USSR, I never heard that one before (even in Salomeja Neris' poems), concerning the events in Lithuania in June-August 1940. Dr. Dan (talk) 21:21, 11 January 2008 (UTC)