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[edit] POV

Much is wrong with this article. Intead of facts the article is filled with vain comments and unverified claims. Please clean-up.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.63.89 (talk • contribs)

I agree but I don't know how to edit correctly some who knows about the topic should!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.145.189 (talkcontribs)
The article is a mess. It is full of caste POV: "A typical Chitpavan is usually fair of complexion... He can be called handsome.", "Chitpavan girls possess good physical features", "Chitpavans came to India from Egypt, while others say they came from Greece", "Chitpavans are generally extremists, hence their behaviour is full of contradiction", "A Chitpavan may sacrifice his life for his country but he will not easily part with his purse", "Chitpavan's are generally assumed to be tidy, clean and industrious". Even the references cited include seemingly POV works Chitpavan writers such as Chapekar, M.C. Dixit, Jagannath Dixit etc. utcursch | talk 09:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


And I must add, Patwardhan, very much a Chitpavan last name, is my own last name, and my dad definitely isn't fair-skineed nor does he have gray eyes. And you can't make stereotypes about people's personalities, which this guy has unfortunately done. Also, the spelling and grammar are atrocious.

199.111.189.140 05:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)KMP

[edit] Confusion between articles

1. This article has very strong correlation with another one tited Chitpavan Konkanastha Brahmins. Maybe we should merge these two.

2. This other article has been seriously vandalised by someone who has attempted to discredit the Chitpavans and indeed, insult the community subtly. I have attempted to clean up his act, and remove the bias but that is one of the downsides of Wiki.

RE: This is the strength of WIKI that all facts come out and are not easy to suppress. This article is much improved version of the one titled Chitpavan Konkanastha Brahmins. If I detect that it's getting out of hand, I'll be back, to clean up the act. :o) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.137.34 (talk) 14:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

<----> hmm... There was a page on Chitpavan Konkanastha Brahmins earlier. Its "Discussion" section had some very thought provoking information.

It seemed to be lost but I have dug it out. Giving it here for new visitors: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Chitpavan_Konkanastha_Brahmins&printable=yes

Do not miss it! <---->


3. Third, I agree with one of the comments here that the physical characteristics are only one of the possible identifiers of a Chitpavan. There are many more, most importantly, personality, achievement orientation, intelligence and a positive, liberal attitude, all of which have given the Chitpavan his place in Indian society. I support Mr Patwardhan's POV that lets stop talking about "Gore-Ghare" all the time :)

Artaxerxes07 03:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genealogy

Kudos to the person who added the detailed genealogical info about chitpavans. The earlier version contained a biased view propogated by some who seemed enamoured by thought of being associated with a particular group( Cohen jews anyone?) The new additions are much more scientifuc and POV free. I have been meaning to add the info myself, but life happened. Anyway I am really glad that someone took time to do it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.58.160.62 (talk) 19:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of ' A Konkan Legend' - An Article by S M Edwardes

There was an interesting article by above name incorporated in Chitpavan Origins section. Some mad person has removed it. However this person has failed to remove the link which is By Ways of Bombay - Chapter XIV " A Konkan Legend" - By S M Edwardes http://infomotions.com/etexts/gutenberg/dirs/1/0/0/7/10071/10071.htm

Wikipedia is fast becoming a platform of expressing personal opinions and rivalries rather than a repository of knowledge. This I am afraid is bound to diminish its credibility. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.0.180.100 (talk) 18:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)