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    [edit] Requested Moves

    The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

    The result of the debate was don't move, twice. Before reopening this debate yet again, think. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 13:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Chinese Exclusion Act (United States)Chinese Exclusion Act (Apr 2006)

    • Chinese Exclusion Act is now a disambig, linking to similar U.S. and Canadian laws, however only one of them was formally named the Chinese Exclusion Act, while the Canadian law had a different title, and may have been informally referred to as the "Chinese Exclusion Act." Please, stick with formal names here.

    [edit] Votes

    • OPPOSE This already was voted on. 70.51.11.101 23:00, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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    NOTE: The below discussion is from February 2005; the April 2006 discussion should be above this line.

    [edit] Chinese Exclusion Act (United States)Chinese Exclusion Act (Feb 2005)

    Absurd redirect; no other nation has had a "Chinese Exclusion Act"; apparently the other meaning is a "nickname coined by the Chinese-Canadian community" for the Chinese Immigration Act. Neutralitytalk 06:50, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Votes

    • Just a note to say that the name "Chinese Exclusion Act" suggests that it is an "Exclusion Act" that is Chinese, jguk 10:15, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • Oppose the common name of the Canadian Chinese Immigration Act is the "Chinese Exclusion Act." - SimonP 04:44, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)
    • Oppose Agree with SimonP BlankVerse 09:53, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • Support. We don't typically disambiguate between an official name and a nickname, especially when the former is the better known. →Raul654 06:48, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
    • Oppose better known? The Chinese Immigration Act of Canada excluded Chinese almost entirely, while the Chinese Exclusion Act of the US just limited immigration, so the effect of thw two laws is most like the name of the other one. 70.51.11.101 22:59, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

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    [edit] chinese representation in the US

    I deleted from the article this sentence: "It is also one of the primary reasons for why Chinese-Americans are slightly underrepresented in the United States (2% of the population) relative to the Han ethnic group's total percentage of the human species' population (about 20%)."

    the US has never purported to represent the entire global population, only US population. So the fact that 20% of the globe's population is Han Chinese has no relevance to US representation.

    [edit] Just a question about the national quota

    I dont really think that the national quota was 105 immigrants but i dont know how much it really was so if someone could get that information.So Pro Lah 05:26, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

    There is some apparent confusion here, I agree. If Chinese were excluded until the Act was repealed, then how is it that 70% of the hundreds of thousands of immigrants between 1910 and 1940 were allowed to remain? This apparent contradition should be explained in the article. -Jmh123 15:53, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


    [edit] Restrictive immigration policies not limited to countries listed

    The United States was not the only country to have racially restrictive immigration policies.

    China itself had had strict anti-foreigner laws, which were only slackened as a result of concessions forced by the European Powers after the Opium Wars. Immigration of foreign nationals today remains extremely difficult, should they choose to try (unless - perhaps? - they are of Han race). I don't think it's fair to single out "white" countries about restrictive immigration policies when all major states have had them, especially imperial ones; Japan, China, Bali, Thailand, the Ottoman Sultanate, and others. And even once admitted to such a state, strict policies on behaviour, locations of residence and type of profession, inheritance and more; not very much unlike the US, Canada or Australia, and in many cases (especially imperial China's, and Maoist China's) far worse. Skookum1 02:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


    and then they were all like sup?

    Skookum, you talk like a racist. Why do you single out Imperial China now? Because it's Chinese and the article is about racism towards ethnical chinese in new world colonies? Should we also add that the vile negroe Othello viciously strangled Desdemone in the articles on appartheid? Thehairthatdidntgrow 21:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] removed link

    I just removed this link from the article page because it lists no actual content, but if anyone wanted to go to the archives to photocopy original documents for inclusion here it might be helpful. Calliopejen1 07:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

    Chinese And Chinese Americans The National Archives-Pacific Region holds records of the Honolulu and San Francisco offices of the Immigration and Naturalization Service pertaining to Chinese immigration.

    [edit] How Did this get through congress?

    Will someone answer me this, the the fuck did a bill called the "Chinese Exclusion Act" get through congress w/o public dissent/ coup? were we that fucked up back then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.188.176 (talk) 23:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

    Yes. Yes, we were. --Lquilter (talk) 00:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
    Yes, as a matter of fact, this is one of many examples of the racist history of the United States. Kingturtle (talk) 01:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)