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    [edit] UK version slightly longer?

    I have a very strong memory that the original UK version - which is very rare on CD, actually fades out some 20-30 seconds later than the commonly available North American CD. This may well be based on memories of my friend's original UK vinyl.

    Anyone out there care to try to verify that? I don't have a UK copy :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.64.54.64 (talk) 21:04, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

    The US CD definitely fades out about a half-minute earlier than the UK CD. There are a couple of other minor differences as well. --Lazlo Nibble (talk) 19:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Madrugada Eterna

    Further to the discussions about this song / single. It strikes me that the connection between The Orb and The KLF is strengthened by the 2006 release from Malicious Damage 'Orb Sessions Volume 1'

    The first track on this album is called "Mummie Don't" and quite clearly has sections that are identical to madrugada. The tracks themselves aren't individually credited, the whole release credits the usual early orb players including J. Cauty. The inner sleeve quoting :

    "To the memories of Orb sessions in Trancentral, Lynford Studios, WAU Parties, Benmio, Coach House, Phutur, Spectrum, Schoom, Land of Oz, Trip, Seaside Resorts, Space & Yellow"

    I feel it would be worth adding a reference and link to this album from this section.

    I also had an email from 'Colsey' at Malicious Damage that stated he was trying to get lx and Jimi to agree to release the original 'Space' version, with both artists contributions which lx still has the masters of. This of course is heresay at the moment.

    Baz whyte 20:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

    Many thanks for the tip-off. I haven't heard "Mummie Don't", but will seek it out. Are there any references out there that acknowledge the association (just to avoid 'original research' charges)?
    Regarding 'Space', now that would be awesome. I think the released version is a beautiful thing, but I'd love to hear the Orb version. It's also interesting to see "Benmio" listed in the Orb recording locations. Is that definitely how it's spelt? Presumably it's the same place as "Benio" (mentioned in "Burn the Bastards" and a "Last Train to Trancentral" mix). --Vinoir 12:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
    Ooh... Now that is interesting and I agree, it would be very nice to hear Space as it was meant to be. Let's hope something comes of that. Either way, thanks for the info. --kingboyk 16:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
    Re: "Mummie Don't" there's nothing official, however a listener who knows both tracks can instantly recognise them as having the same roots / melodies / samples.
    Re: "Benmio" - yes typo / dyslexia on my part - checking the credits again its actually "Bennio" - double n, but I suspect the same place. —The preceding Baz whyte 19:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Authentic Sound Effects Volume 2

    Seems to be some confusion around this album. After a quick listen (oh no! original research!) the FX cited in the article do seem to have been sourced from the CD ("Authentic Sound Effects - Volume 2", Elektra 9 60732-2, US 1987). But if so, any mention of the original "Authentic Sound Effects" LPs is misleading, as all of the cited sound effects were newly (digitally) recorded for that CD. Lazlo Nibble 05:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Delisted Good Article

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    [edit] Problems

    There is WAY too much unsourced information. No original research is allowed in GAs. And there is an entire section empty... Why is it even there? The article has been delisted. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. --LaraLoveTalk/Contribs 05:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Blanked section

    This entire section seems to have been commented out, so I moved it here:
    ==Context== <!-- TODO: Some KLF Context. Some mention of the evolution of ambient house--><!-- Ambient music was first used as a term by Brian Eno in the manifesto that accompanied his Music for Airports album of 1978. "Whereas conventional background music is produced by stripping away all sense of doubt and uncertainty (and thus all genuine interest) from the music, ambient music retains these qualities," Eno wrote. "Ambient music is intended to induce calm and a space to think. It must be able to accommodate many levels of listening without enforcing one ... it must be as ignorable as it is interesting." This definition, currently being consulted for the revised edition of the Oxford English Dictionary, acted as a blueprint for a small coterie of experimenters until 1989. Then, something strange happened. In the creative melee that ensued in the wake of the first acid house parties, DJs such as the KLF's Jimmy Cauty and the Orb's Alex Patterson began to play Eno records in so-called "chill out rooms" at dance music clubs. Mixing Music for Airports with German synthesizer records, Strauss waltzes and BBC birdsong LPs, their initiative ran counter to all the dance club and pop music conventions of the time. [[David Toop]], "A world in a grain of sound", ''[[The Times]]'' ([[London]]) ISSN 01400460, [[13 August]] [[1993]], Features section.--><!-- ''Chill Out'' is a seminal work that pioneered the genre of [[ambient house]] music.--><!--Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians suggests that Chill Out was the first ambient house record.-->

    Any reason why this is? Just64helpin 19:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

    I wonder if there shouldn't be a link to Ambient_music and that page shouldn't be updated with some of this content, and include a link back here? KLF are one of my faves, so I'd be glad to discuss this. Rodhullandemu 02:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
    All our (WP:KLF) Featured Articles have a context section I think... I don't remember but that section is probably just something we didn't get round to finishing. I'll put it back but fully commented out.
    Certainly there is material which can be shared between articles (The Orb is now a FA and probably has some stealable stuff too) but not at the expense of removing relevant material from here. As a featured article this would need to have something to say about the context in which the album was released. --kingboyk 14:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)