Talk:Children of a Lesser God

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While the movie "Children of A lesser God" certainly deserves strong mention in this article, the base meaning of this phrase has not been addressed.

There is a reason why this phrase was used as the movie's title; the phrase refers to any group of people who are (or feel they are) less valued by society, of less worth.

Surely this truth deserves to be included in this article?

209.74.19.137 06:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)Sidereal Ofvania

Go for it. Geoff NoNick 19:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

My personal impression is the opposite: this is an article specifically about the movie. If you're talking about adding a discussion of the significance of the movie's title, then I'd say to go for it. On the other hand, I don't agree that the phrase "children of a lesser god" deserves its own article (either a separate article or a repurposing of this article from the movie to the phrase). I've personally never been aware of it outside the context of this play and movie; my impression is that it was coined to be the title of this work. It has no other life of its own.

I would agree. Though well-phrased, I think the reasoning behind the title is quite obvious and any reader with a brain can tell what the title implies. It would be unnecessary to elaborate on it. Wikipedia is already too full of superfluous information that unncessarily clutters up its articles. MassassiUK 09:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Separate Article for the Play

I added the Split header because the play was much more significant in the history of stage compared to the film's role in the history of cinema, other than Marlee Matlin's Oscar win. I think there should be analysis of the play's themes and history, while the film page probably ought to focus only on its differences and facts specifically about the film.

Willing to contribute, if this is so... 65.10.213.73 03:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

i, too, support the proposed split. the 1980 broadway play (starring Phyllis Frelich) won three tony awards and deserves it's own article. i'll try to get started on it soon if no one else does. i would, however, strongly suggest that the article titles be "Children of a Lesser God" and "Children of a Lesser God (film)" since the play pre-dates the movie by about five years. J. Van Meter 13:51, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest "Children of a Lesser God (play)" and "Children of a Lesser God (film)" with a disambig on "Children of a Lesser God"; the film will probably be better-known to most. Geoff NoNick 18:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

At the moment I don't see enough information on the play to justify splitting out. If I prefer to see a separate section on the play added, then see how much that section expands to before making the decision. --MarkS (talk) 19:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I can understand that, although right now pointing Children of a Lesser God go directly to the movie is misrepresenting this drama, even though the movie is better known. Children of a Lesser God is a groundbreaking play that happened to be adapted into a movie. If anything, the play should be the article, with a section for the movie, although this is not usual for Wikipedia on a mainstream picture. I will try to do some work on an article for the play. 70.146.34.118 16:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

-New article about the play can be found at Children of a Lesser God (play). Does anyone else support changing this film article's title to "Children of a Lesser God (film)" as discussed above? J. Van Meter 13:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I think perhaps a notice at the top suggesting children of a Lesser God (play) would be enough. Geoff NoNick 16:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization

Isn't the title "Children of a Lesser god"? (G not capitalized) Hazelorb (talk) 20:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)