Talk:Childe Cycle

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Novels
Literature Portal
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to narrative novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit one of the articles mentioned below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.
Start This article has been rated as Start-Class.
Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.
This article is supported by the Science fiction task force. (with unknown importance)
Assessment comments

Contents

[edit] Like to help

I've got some input on this, based on personal communication with Dickson, back in the days when I was 1/3rd of the Exotic Irregulars. I'm new here. How does one go about editing this in and identifying the source. (goodston@well.com)

See WP:FOOT or Help:Footnotes for information on how to use footnotes. I would guess you'd say something like "Personal interview with Gordon R. Dickson by <insert name> here" for the reference. crazyeddie 04:38, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Younger worlds list

from my copy of final encyclopedia, for inclusion in the article later. crazyeddie 11:00, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • Fomalhaut
    • Dorsai - Dorsai (military courage)
  • Altair
    • Dunnin's World - Fishermen
  • Sol
    • Venus - Hard Science
    • Old Earth
    • Mars
  • Procyon
    • Mara
    • Kultis - Extoic
    • Ste. Marie - Farmers, Religious
    • Coby - Mining
  • Epsilon Eridani
    • Association - Friendly (Religious)
    • Harmony- Friendly (Religious)


Not sure this was added elsewhere -- The (dead) body of Paul Formain in Necromancer is animated by the mind of Donal Graeme who has returned through time to start the break-up of the human race. [It becomes clear that Donal is doing a _lot_ behind the scenes in many of the books!]

[edit] Working on the article

I'm working on fleshing out the article and, hopefully, adding entries for the red-linked books. If you have any thoughts or suggestions, please leave them here or on my talk page. -- Fan1967 17:46, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Things to check

  • Given the book-selling nature of their occupation, the Childe Cycle focuses mainly on their exploits, to the extent that the Cycle is sometimes called the "Dorsai series". This sounds a little like a veiled criticism of the book.
  • I changed the bit which said the Exotics were "pacifistic" into "peaceful". I think it's a mistake to think the Exotics were pacifists. It's been some years since I read the books, but there is one where an Exotic (Mentor, I beleive) tells a Dorsai that the reason why they avoided physical conflict -- or contracted others to deal with it -- was that they felt it distracted them from their intellectual exploits. I think it was in Tactics of Mistake.
  • I would remove the word "fanaticism" from the description of the Friendlies. In Soldier, Ask Not, Dickson is clearly sympathetic towards them, and tries to convince the reader that the fanatics were not representative of the whole Friendly culture (contrast Jamethon Black with Tam Olyn!) Although I wouldn't word it as crudely as Friendlies can be true faith-holders, or they can be fanatics. The difference, according to the Cycle, is that true faith-holders are guided by their faith, while fanatics use their faith to justify their actions.
  • I also wonder where the following came from. The Friendly homeworlds experience continual sectarian civil war. I don't recall reading this, though it could have been in one of the later books which I haven't read. FilipeS
  • Comments:
  1. I'd say lose the first phrase. Maybe something more like, "Due to their prominence in the series".
  2. Needs rewording entirely. They're not pacifists, just don't engage in violence themselves. True pacifists, or even truly peaceful people, don't hire mercenaries.
  3. Again, some rewording necessary. The Friendlies as a culture are not fanatics, but fanatacism is present, like the guy who kills Tam Olyn's brother-in-law.
  4. That line might have been mine, and is overstated. There are references in Final Encyclopedia (and I think in a couple of the earlier books) to regular doctrinal squabbles, but "civil war" is definitely wrong. Fan-1967 00:02, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dorsai!

Added a separate page for the existing book. It's been a while since I've read it and I don't have a copy, so someone should probably go over and check/expand the page. --T. Mazzei 20:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:TheGeneticGeneral.jpg

Image:TheGeneticGeneral.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 20:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)