Talk:Child abduction
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[edit] VfD I
from VfD:
It's not an article, but a bunch of quotes from different people. Timo Honkasalo 15:43, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Transfer to wikiquote, then delete.-PlasmaDragon 16:25, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Transfer to Wikiquote with some pruning, then delete. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 19:11, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)
- Anthony has redirected it to Child stealing. RickK 23:07, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep as redirect. Transwiki if you want. anthony (see warning) 21:38, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
end moved discussion
[edit] VfD II
Second vfd of child stealing is at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Child stealing. Consensus was to move to its more common name, child abduction. Dunc|☺ 15:45, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Hidden Agenda
Two IP addresses: 61.193.213.106 and 61.45.80.227 have been updating this article with an obvious agenda.
"The Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction is an international treaty and legal mechanism to recover children abducted to another country by one parent or family member. The United States signed this into law in 1988. Japan is the only G7 nation not have signed this treaty into law, and Japanese law makes this country a haven for Japanese nationals who have removed their children from another country. As of December 24th 2005, Interpol has outstanding warrants for two Japanese nationals, the most recent addition being Wood, Ayako, who abducted her son and daughter from Canada to Japan in 2004. The children's father, Murray Wood, a Canadian national, presently has his case for the return of his children to Canada and his care before the Japanese Supreme Court. Interpol fugitive listing here: http://www.interpol.int/public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Data/2005/47/2005_23547.asp + The Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction is an international treaty and legal mechanism to recover children abducted to another country by one parent or family member. The United States signed this into law in 1988. Japan is the only G7 nation not have signed this treaty into law. - - Mr Wood has the full support of the Canadian court which have ruled that the children be returned to their habitual place of abode, as they were born and raised in Canada until their abduction. This Canadian ruling has not been recognized by the Japanese family court and Japanese high court as having any relevance to Japanese citizens. Mr Wood's case is one of many such instances of Japan ignoring internationally agreed tenets of human rights in regard to child abduction, both cross-border and domestically. More examples and stories of such abductions can be found here: http://www.frij.net/m/index.asp Link goes to Father's Rights in Japan website. This link to Children's Rights Network of Japan http://www.CRNJapan.com/en/ Murray Wood's personal website detailing his attempts to reclaim his children through the Japanese legal system: http://public.sd38.bc.ca:8004/~MWood/"
I've removed all details of the spicific case as Wikipedia is not a soap box. I have kept the top part of the first paragraph as it is information that is true and usefull. Random Player 04:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- While WP is not a soapbox. Mr Wood has gained considerable support in Japan for this issue, and there are several independent third-party sources that discuss his case. I would like to ask interested editors to have a look at two articles from my magazine which discuss Mr Wood's case in more detail. I would like to ask if editors think it appropraite to create a section in this page for Japan-related abductions. Feature Think of the Children Follow-up Remember the Children. -- Sparkzilla talk! 10:41, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Statistics
I think this article could use some statistics on the numbers of abductions done by non-custodial parents and relatives versus people unknown to the child. This is really a very important aspect of this. --DanielCD 14:47, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Belgium Embassy Girls
I think this topic also doesn't belong in this encyclopedic article (same as the complaint on the Japanese abduction). I've re-written it nonetheless, waiting for consensus. The article states the situation was "participarly complicated"; however, the stated facts don't appear all that complicated at all --other than that the case dealt with a non-Hague country (which is a frequent occurrence) and that "the girls fled to the Belgium embassy" and a resolution had to be mediated by the Iranian ambassador. I know of at least three other cases that are at least as complicated, none of which deserve discussion on this article page. Ronels talk 19:58, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Japan is the only G7 country
I have seen some soapboxing by someone related to "Japan Children's Rights Network" in other articles. In an article about North Korea's abduction of Japanese citizen, someone from JCRN tried to argue that situation is similar to theirs. Considering that some abductees are killed by North Korea, I found the argument quite offesive but I guess when one is flustrated with system, they tend to make bizzare argument. Anway, I assume quite few countries, including developed countries hasn't signed up for it. Use of G7 is an attempt to single out Japan to bring attention to their cause, which directly violate soaxbox ban of this site. I will delete reference to Japan unless someone reference it to verified source. Vapour
