Talk:Chiefdom

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I think this recent edit by Jaredb is redundant, since the paragraph below already explains that chiefdoms are intermediate between tribes and states. Furthermore, the statement that "social relations were based mainly on kinship, marriage, decent, age, generation, and gender just as they were in bands and tribes" is unnecessary, because those are human universals and are not distinctive of chiefdom organization. Therefore, I am going to remove the edit. I welcome discussion if there is disagreement. TriNotch 23:56, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] nice article

i really like this article. it is succinct and covers the main points. chiefdoms are notoriously hard to define because of the variability and cycling that is described in the article. i wonder if it would be good to add several short examples of chiefdoms (maybe three: a classic chiefdom, a minimal or simple chiefdom, and a maximal or complex chiefdom) to show this variability along the short themes of settlement patterns, social organization, and ideation. what do you all think? cheers, Mumun 00:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Glad you like the article. Your idea sounds great. Go ahead, particularly if you can add some citations for the examples. Or, alternately, someone could develop these examples in separate Wiki articles, and then we could link to them as good examples. TriNotch 00:23, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I notice that your academic focus is the Mumum pottery period of Korea; from that article I see that Deokcheon-ni and Igeum-dong are examples of chiefdoms. Perhaps articles on those sites could serve the purpose? If not, the sites of the Mississippian culture could help. TriNotch 00:30, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carneiro

Recent edits by an anonymous user added a very good definition from Carneiro's work, but simultaneously changed the introductory line. The new introduction did not permit the colloquial meaning of chiefdom (i.e. a community led by a chief). I have retained the useful Carneiro edit but returned the intro line to its previous state. TriNotch 02:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)