Talk:Chief Osceola and Renegade

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[edit] Osceola and Renegade are not mascots

i understand the conflict, the Illini might have had a problem but the distinction is that FSU does not have an official mascot. The Seminoles are a symbol of the school and the article must represent this.--68.35.201.31 (talk) 12:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

The PC is annoying already. The Seminoles are not the Illini and the Seminole Tribe of Florida has sanctioned the use of the SYMBOLS Of Osceola and Renegade. They are not to be infered upon as mascots. --UkrNole 485 (talk) 12:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Just the fact that you are referring to this as Political Correctness shows your bias against this and is not civil. They can sanction the term "symbol" all they want, but conventional definition is mascot. Please see the Talk:Chief Illiniwek#Third Opinion for a relevant discussion and precedence for using both terms. Please keep the POV drama off the article. Justinm1978 (talk) 13:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

This rewrite can be seen as a fair compromise, indicating the universities stance as well as the common view. I think it important to acknowledge the position of accepted reference first. This is encyclopedic again I understand the topic has been discussed on another page but the truth of the matter is that the Seminole tribe as stated “these symbols are approved” they did not condone or use mascots. Mascots have a demining tone. This is getting heated for no reason, people sould leave it alone an see to why it was written in a way in the first place.--Nolephin (talk) 16:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)