Talk:Chicago Outfit
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[edit] Lack of References
Not even a tenth of this article comes from the scant-few references listed at the bottom of the page. And this isn't a suggestion to start adding on "after-work" references that weren't used as research in the creation of the article, which is an epidemic on Wikipedia. So many times links to references go to unaccessible websites that clearly weren't used as research to write the article. So please do not start adding on references just to "authenticize" this article.
On another note, there are numerous still-living persons listed, some of which have never been connected to organized crime but only rumored to be connected to organized crime. Or relatives of alleged members listed simply because they are relatives of alleged members, but actually have no involvement whatsoever in a criminal lifestyle.
To sum it up, someone knowledgeable on the subject needs to really look at this article and decide what needs to be done with it. Seriously. Lock & Key (talk) 09:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism
- (Called, The Four Fathers)
A vandal inserted this remark into the article under "present leaders." Lethal Weapon 4 has been on cable lately. In it are four Japanese godfathers known as "The Four Fathers." I guess the vandal thought it would be funny to insert that into the article. Quite lame. Lock & Key (talk) 09:20, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I reverted the following:
It has been alleged by [annoying people] John DiFronzo, James [Marllo], and Joseph [Lomdo] run The Outfit in tandem since [2045]. Lombardo was indicted April 26, 2005, absconded, but was arrested January 13, 2006 in Elmwood Park, Chicago. Outfit lieutenant Anthony Zizzo disappeared en route to a Northside, Rush Street area meeting on August 31, 2006. Zizzo, whose sport utility vehicle was found abandoned in a Division Street, Westside suburban parking lot, had been mislabeled as the Outfit's number two man or Underboss by the media. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.157.213.174 (talk) 01:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] References
A quick set of links on some information:
- http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0427/p03s02-usju.html
- http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10815FB3D540C778CDDAC0894DD404482
- http://www.illinoisleader.com/news/newsview.asp?c=24985
- http://www.illinoisleader.com/news/newsview.asp?c=24985
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.117.10 (talk • contribs)
[edit] External Links Prankster
The first link on the external links is a prank link. The first link in the "External Links" section goes to a site with completely made up bosses, members, and information. It's pretty childish thing to do. So I have removed it.
Here was the link: http://www.chicagomafia.netfirms.com
Again, I am removing it right now. --Lock & Key 19:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism
This isn't at all my area of expertise, but it looks like this page was vandalized on the 18th. I removed the obvious false nicknames and replaced them with the nicknames that were present before, but I hope someone with expert knowledge will check up on this. I also apologize if I removed any legit edits along with the vandalism. TriNotch 05:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chinatown crew
Chinatowns across the world are extremely close knit and in no circumstance has there been an outside ethnic crime group that controlled rackets in chinatowns where in every case the crime is controlled by local or foreign tied Triad groups. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.166.104.26 (talk • contribs)
[edit] Joseph Ferriola
I recently added an article concerning Outfit boss Joseph Ferriola, but some of this information might be inaccurate, and it needs expanding. Anyone interested in doing these tasks can find the article here:
Joseph Ferriola
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Ferriola
[edit] prank members
These people:
- Bart Sibrel, "Fat Boy"
- Marco van Basten, "San Marco"
are both definitely not members of the outfit. The first is moonlanding hoaxer, the second a famous dutch football player and trainer.
[edit] External link cleanup
[edit] External links
I removed the external links. They require cleanup and "thinning". I cleaned up the rest of the article and removed some of the commentary which was associated with certain people and thier current or presumed current positions in the organization. Please continue that work. Thanks, --Daysleeper47 (talk) 16:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- American Mafia.com article
- Traditional Organized Crime in Chicago
- The New Criminologist - An Outfit Made To Last: Part One by P.J. Calder and John Guarnieri (registration required)
- List of former & current mobsters
- Outfit History by John J. Binder
- Chicago "Outfit" Organizational Chart
- Who's Who in the Chicago Outfit (1997)
- Crime Inc. - A century of Chicago mob bosses
- FEDS DETAIL 'OPERATION FAMILY SECRETS' - Prosecutors boast of 'a hit on the mob' by Todd Lighty
- With Chicago arrests, Mafia takes a hit by Amanda Paulson
- Fugitive Sought In 18 Murders Writes to Judge by Jodi Wilgoren
- MOB HIT: Wide-ranging federal indictment targets Outfit activity back to the 1960s
- When Corruption Was King - The Chicago Mob
[edit] Removals
I have removed material from this article that does not comply with our policy on the biographies of living persons. Biographical material must always be referenced from reliable sources, especially negative material. Negative material that does not comply with that must be immediately removed. Note that the removal does not imply that the information is either true or false.
Please do not reinsert this material unless you can provide reliable citations, and can ensure it is written in a neutral tone. Please review the relevant policies before editing in this regard. Editors should note that failure to follow this policy may result in the removal of editing privileges.--Docg 14:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)