Talk:ChibiChibi/Archive 01

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Her name

  • There were two duplicate articles, which both said her name was "Chibichibi", so I had "Chibi Chibi" redirect here. Danny Lilithborne 01:10, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Sailor Moon becomes Sailor Cosmos

"Now Eternal Sailor Moon, who saved the galaxy, is the true Sailor Cosmos. When, like Eternal Sailor Moon, I can have the courage to stand alone, and the courage to accept everything, at that time I can be the true Sailor Cosmos. Now, you shall return as well! To the place where you must return, to the person you must protect!"

[1] It says clearly that Sailor Cosmos (The title) is passed to Eternal Sailor Moon, as I stated. It says NOTHING about Sailor Moon being the "true" Sailor Moon though.

[2]"The me of here, too, was all alone. Always suffering." Sailor Cosmos says this in Act 52. She calls Usagi "the me of here" (herself in the past). Next, a picture of ChibiChibi is shown, then a picture of ChibiChibi hugging Usagi, and Sailor Cosmos continues... "So I was always by her side, to support her. I was going to make her choose the right path this time.... " This is where Sailor Cosmos says that she was ChibiChibi, staying with "the me of here" (Usagi). This shows that Sailor Cosmos WAS Usagi in the past!! She came back as ChibiChibi to stay beside herself, and make sure that Usagi made the right decision in the end. In reference to the previous comment, this still makes sense... the title of Sailor Cosmos was passed to Eternal Sailor Moon. That means that Eternal Sailor Moon has now become Sailor Cosmos... and will continue to be Sailor Cosmos in the future. BettyAnn 09:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

This whole thing gives me a headache. Danny Lilithborne 10:58, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

lol, you're not the only one... :) BettyAnn 16:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
The me of here could have meant ChibiChibi as that was the cosmos there.

Cosmos changes made

Cosmos never calls herself the Sailor Moon of the Future. Ceres questions if Sailor Cosmos IS the same as the future form of Sailor Moon, but never once does Cosmos actually say she's Sailor Moon. There is also absolutely no proof that the title of Sailor Moon is passed on from generation to generation. There are 3 generations present in the Manga, Queen Selenity, Sailor Moon, and Chibi-Moon. It is implicated though that Chibi-Usa would never have become Sailor ChibiMoon if the Black Moon Family hadn't attacked. That is why Chibi-usa trains as ChibiMoon in the past and not in the future. Also, her Asteriod Senshi were found in the past and sent to the future to protect her, not in the actual future. So Chibi-usa would probably have never become Sailor ChibiMoon if that hadn't happen. We also do not know if Chibi-Usa will ever actually BECOME Sailor Moon due to the fact that Chaos and therefor all Evil is gone from the universe. Also, no other senshi passes their name since they never marry, so why would Sailor Moon be a legacy? We don't even know if Chibi-Usa lives to have kids or can have kids. That is too much speculation.

it could be Chibi-Usa or her child of sailor moon from a parllel dimention or not i dont no
Please sign posts. Queen Serenity was never Sailormoon, however, the passing of the title from Usagi to Small Lady is inevitiable. How to handle this subject should be addressed on the Cosmos page, not here, and also handled in a diplomatic fashion. WITHOUT use of the Tokyopop translations which are highly inaccurate in this area.--Hitsuji Kinno 20:13, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


Sailor Cosmos merge

I think these two articles should be merged, since they are the same person. (When Operation Consistency gets around to this article, it'll have an "other forms" section anyway.) The real question is which person the article should be named after. Technically Sailor Cosmos is the real form, but she has zero screen-time and considerably less page-time than Chibichibi. --Masamage 19:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Well...wait. I guess in the anime Chibichibi is sort of the same person as Galaxia. Maybe they are distinct enough that this would be a bad idea. --Masamage 19:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Better Pic

We defintly need a better picture of ChibiChibi, Did they make any images (i think they came from cards) like the ones we use for the other senshi? Lego3400: The Sage of Time 23:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The ones we have for the Inners and the Moons are the entirety of a set (I think from a calendar); nothing for the Outers or anyone else. :T But there's probably something of similar quality for Chibichibi. --Masamage 23:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Here's a nice one; I'm still looking for more. http://www.clanretribution.net/rose/portfolio/moon/images/charachi.gif --Masamage 23:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thats perfect, I'll switch it out now. Lego3400: The Sage of Time

DoneLego3400: The Sage of Time 20:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

'Kay. The gif version is much better, but we can't use it unless we know exactly where it's from. If you find that out, I can cite the source info on the image page. Meanwhile, I'll put the jpg up for deletion, since it's the same thing in lower quality. --Masamage 22:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
I switched the pic to a PNG format. The gif and jpg can both be deleted now. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 04:45, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Only one child?

Where is it stated that the queens can only have one child. Also Since Princess sernity was reinarnated into a human (Usagi), whouldn't that rule be void? Lego3400: The Sage of Time 23:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure about the manga (although I'm pretty sure it was stated there too), but in Sailor Stars Sailor Pluto stated that Neo-Queen Serenity only has one child. Danny Lilithborne 23:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
    • That's what I remember, too. I don't know about the rest of the Serenity line, though. --Masamage 23:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
      • Found it! Manga act 49. "I heard that from generation to generation, the Millennium's queen only gives birth to one princess." --Masamage 04:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, in Episode 182, Rei brings up the possibility that Chibichibi is Mamoru and Usagi's second child, when Pluto appears out of nowhere, saying: "It won't happen. I was so worried that I followed you. As far as I know, Small Lady is the Queen's only child." -- RattleMan 05:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

And we know that Pluto knows everything, what with being able to control time and all. -サターン・ヨッシー HAPPY HALLOWEEN 07:36, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure there's a limit, because otherwise nothing would surprise, worry, or please her. But I don't know exactly what it is. --Masamage 19:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

But that doesn't mean she Can't, it just means she doesn't want to... Unless Usgai decides to change it!Lego3400: The Sage of Time 04:33, 4 November 2006 (UTC)