Talk:Chevrolet TrailBlazer

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[edit] predecessor

The TB is based on a larger, more powerful platform. It doesn't replace the blazer at all. The blazer is being phased out. GM is just heading in a different direction. When I removed that previously, I didn't catch the "predecessor=" parameter. I'd like it if somebody could cite a source on this one. I know the name is somewhat confusing, but the TB is simply not a replacement for the blazer. In any way. aa v ^ 23:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TrailBlazer

The TrailBlazer debuted in 1999 as an upscale Blazer, just like the Envoy debuted in 1998 as an upscale Jimmy. -- Bull-Doser 02:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm sorry, I don't think this should quailify as a TrailBlazer. The Trailblazer and the Envoy in 1999 were still based off the Blazer (and Jimmy respectfully) and was simply considered a trim level (like the Denali is to a Yukon). I'll wait until it is discussed a bit more, but I think the template should be changed and the article should reflect that the first Trailblazers were just a trim level (not a seperate or new model). -HumanZoom 10:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

'''I am having trouble finding the topspeed for the 2006 chevrolet SUV and all other SUVs and cars. Will someone please post the top speed of these cars. I would be nice to know the 0-60 time and distance in 69-0 braking time.''' (lost) May 2nd 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.124.28.4 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Spam Links

Unfortunately, this article (among several others) have been a recent target for the addition of spam links. These links are against Wikipedia policy and should not be added to an article. Please see Wikipedia:External_links for more information about what types of links are acceptable. I have reverted the changes once again and have tried to remove all the current spam links on the page. If I have removed a link in error, please discuss it here before adding it back to the page. Thanks, HumanZoom 02:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: Information in this article was referenced from a site, and it WILL stay in the external links section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.14.23 (talk • contribs)

Hi! To start off, let me remind you to sign your comments on a talk page. This helps everyone know who is saying what and makes it easier to communicate. Secondly, the above paragraph I wrote was in regards to another site that was being added almost every day by a few viewers. However, the site you have added falls in the same category, so the above paragraph is still relevant. TrailVoy.com (which you are adding), is merely a forum for users to get together and communicate. I'm not sure what part of the article you are talking about when you say it was referenced from that site. If it was indeed used as a reference, then it needs to be put in the Reference section, not external links (although I highly doubt that sometime from that site could be used as a reference). I have removed the site from external links. If you feel it needs to be placed in the article for some other reason, please talk about it here first before re-adding it. I would like to avoid an edit war over this silly little link. Thanks, HumanZoom 23:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure why you think TrailVoy.com is a spam link. That site has more resourceful information about this platform vehicle then Chevy.com/GM.com/GMC.com. Their article section alone is a great resource and has been very beneficial to me. I believe some of this article is referenced from one of their articles too! It is a completely free non-profit website. Nothing to gain by adding it to that page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.46.97.62 (talk • contribs)

Hi! First off, as I said to 72.188.14.23, please sign your posts when you are commenting on talk pages. This helps everyone know who said what. Now, moving onto TrailVoy.com...I'm sure the site has been very helpful to many TrailBlazer/Envoy owners, but it does not fit the guidelines for external links added to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere collection of links and at first glance there is nothing useful to the casual user browsing TrailVoy. I tried to take a look at the articles you said that were helpful, but the site requires registration before you are allowed to view anything. Even still, I'm assuming these articles are written and maintained by the members of the community of TrailVoy. In which case, these articles would not be allowed to be referenced as they contain orginial research and/or claims (see WP:NOR for more information). Thank you for responding to this claim before re-adding the site, but I do not think it would be useful anywhere on this article. Thanks, HumanZoom 18:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

If it makes you feel more powerful, put it in the references section, because information that I edited into the article came from TrailVoy.com

You crack me up, chevy.com, a site dedicated to SELLING brand new vehicles, isn't spam as far as you are concerned, but a site dedicated to GIVING AWAY FREE INFORMATION is spam. Either you can put the link in the references section and leave it there or I can just keep putting it back in the external links... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.14.23 (talk • contribs)

I'm not sure how many time we have to say it: but PLEASE sign your comments. That way we know who says what. Secondly, yes chevy.com is a commerical website, but it is a reliable, verifiable source which is required for Wikipedia. If you could kindly point out what information you referenced from TrailVoy.com and the direct link to that information this would help your claim. But I have a feeling that when you do provide a direct link to the information you referenced, it won't be useful since it will violate WP:NOR. In which case, we either need to find a new source for that information or edit it out of the article. If you keep adding the site back to external links without any justification, you risk being banned from Wikipedia and/or having TrailVoy.com black listed from the site. Thanks, HumanZoom 04:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Site was re-added by User:72.188.14.23. Have requested admin intervention. Thanks, HumanZoom 03:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Dude, you're an idiot. The point of this site is to help people. You tell me which information you are reliably getting off of the Chevy website. If the admin is interested in getting invloved, I would be glad to talk to him. SIGNED- me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.14.23 (talk • contribs)

Firstly, please try to refrain from personal insults. They don't help your argument and they are against Wikipedia policy. I'm not here to ruin a Wikipedia page or remove valid links just because I don't like a site. I'm here trying to make Wikipedia a better place, and by removing TrailVoy.com we are adhering to the policies that have been set forth by the community.
Secondly, I'm not sure what you are asking? Are you asking me to prove that Chevy.com is reliable and verifiable? First off, some of the various specs and configurations can be confirmed from the Chevy website as well as certain options. But Chevy.com is in the External Links section, not the reference section and according to WP:EL: a link to a page that is the subject of the article or an official page of the article subject is acceptable. This is why Chevy.com is allowed to be listed on this article.
Now, TrailVoy.com however violates several of the criteria listed on WP:EL under Links normally to be avoided including any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research (see Reliable sources for explanation), links to sites that require payment or registration to view the relevant content, and links to social networking sites (such as MySpace), discussion forums or USENET. If you need further clairification of these Wikipedia policies, feel free to contact myself or an admin.
Lastly, instead of saying SIGNED- me at the end of your comments, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ). This will add your signature along with a time stamp.
Thanks, HumanZoom 00:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Your wrong, you do not HAVE to register or pay to view information on TrailVoy.com, the only reason you have to register is to post, and paid subscriptions have nothing at all to do with the sharing of information. I don't want to hear any more from you, if there is a problem from here out, I would like to here from an adminstrator. And no, I am not going to sign my posts, so stop asking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.14.23 (talk • contribs)

I'm not going to go away just because you don't agree with me or you don't like what I have to say. The truth is you have already had contact with an admin when you were banned the other week. I'm not sure what else you would like them to tell you. You are edit warring, insulting members (mainly just me), and adding inappropriate links to Wikipedia. And on top of it all, you add insult to injury by not being polite enough to sign your posts. It isn't hard to sign your posts, it's four extra characters you have to type. I'm not sure why you are so against it.
Secondly, I have tried to view some of the articles on TrailVoy.com and it keeps asking me to sign in or register an account. But despite that fact, even if it was open viewership, it still violates two other guidelines for External Links (as I mentioned above and are also listed on WP:EL).
I don't see why you are still arguing about this site. Let it go and let's just move on. TrailVoy is just not right for Wikipedia. I'm sorry. HumanZoom 03:00, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

So you think I was banned eh? Your some 23 year old kid who has nothing better to do than break chops, because that makes you feel important. How about you and your admin friends take a look at the "Delorean DMC-12" page. There are about 10-15 links to places exactly like the one you are trying to keep me from posting. How about all of the other car sites? Have you looked at those? Oh, and I am not going to go away either, so deal with it. NOT SIGNED, because I don't want to, not because its too many characters to type. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.14.23 (talk • contribs)

Being part of Wikipedia means you are able to edit every page as well. Wikipedia does not employ editors, it is a community driven project. I would suggest (if you have the time) to edit the Delorean page as well as those countless other car pages and remove the spam links that do not conform to WP:EL and other Wikipedia rules. All of your edits have been to TrailBlazer and this talk page. I'm not sure why you are still arguing on this page when there are articles in dire need of help (such as those you have suggested above).
I have never asked you to go away. I have simply asked you conform to the rules and guidelines of Wikipedia when making edits to articles and talk pages. Signed, HumanZoom 23:45, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Trim level?

Wasn't the TrailBlazer a trim level of the blazer before it was its own model? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.157.134.125 (talk • contribs)

Yes. Please read above (and on the Chevrolet Template talk page) about this. It was decided that it was not a model and just a trim level therefore not an official TrailBlazer. The same was true for the GMC Jimmy and the Envoy. HumanZoom 08:08, 7 June 2007 (UTC)




[edit] List of Early Flaws

Shouldn't we put a list of problems with TrailBlazers. Like AC problems.

Please sign your comment. And I don't think putting a problem list would be needed. Those are not our problems. Go tell Chevrolet (or GM), not Wikipedia readers.-- Vintei  talk  23:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Standard engine - optional engine

Um, um, I went on the GM site and it shows clearly that the standard engine is a 4.2L I-6 Vortec with 285hp at 6000rpm and 276lb-ft of torque at 4200rpm http://www.chevrolet.com/pop/trailblazer/2008/4200_en.jsp and an optional 5.3L V8 with 300hp and 321 torque http://www.chevrolet.com/pop/trailblazer/2008/5300_en.jsp .-- Vintei  talk  23:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I won't change them before someone else verify the above.-- Vintei  talk  23:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Written like a brochure

And the mighty meat cleaver of joy shall be taken to it as such.... Scryer_360 (talk) 03:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alrighty

I axed some of the more "brochure like" parts, including the "2008 Model" section which was just a listing of available options and features. Another wiki trace, another reveal that GM edited much of this article into being so poorly constructed. I don't know where to begin with the rest of it, but I'm marking it for cleanup. Scryer_360 (talk) 04:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)