Talk:Chevrolet C/K

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[edit] Diesel Engines

Chevrolet offered the 6.2 Diesel engine option in the C10 1/2 ton chassis pickup as far back as 1979, possibly earlier. I have found documentation through GM mentioning this in their 1979 Truck build books...
Hmmm. I looked at the 1979-1984 GM parts book. Page 31 rev 84.1 1981 Engine Series LF9 diesel (350) No LH6 6.2 diesel . Page 32 rev 84.1 1982 Engine Identification LH6 6.2 and no LF9. I would like to get my hands on a 1973-9 truck build book.Hatzie (talk) 20:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Trim Levels

This article states the GMC Sierra was introduced in 75, but I know that Sierras were available from the 1960s at least. Anyone know for sure? —Morven 05:19, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

The Sierra was a trim option begining in the 1971 model year, and was the equivelent of the Chevy Cheyenne. Formally, the top of the line trim package was the CST (Custom Sport Truck). 1972 saw the top of the line become the Sierra Grande and the Cheyenne Super.
Also, it should be noted that, initially, only GMC models had the 1500, 2500, 3500 series designations, the Chevy equivelents being 10, 20 and 30 for 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton models.--139.78.96.87 02:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)-WK-

[edit] About the "Fourth Generation" Picture

The picture of the 1989 GMC Sierra 1500 is not a GM C/K pickup truck. By 1988, the Sierra was its own model produced by GMC. The fourth generation would be better represented by a Chevy C/K.

--Zouf 01:17, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

My brother-in-law has an '88 Sportside. I'm sure he has a pic he'll "donate." ⇒ BRossow T/C 01:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 6.5TD intro date?

My dad's 6.5TD is a 1995.

Blows the 6.2TD being replaced in 1997 thing out of the water, now, doesn't it? --Bhtooefr 01:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

If you can provide more correct info, please do so! If you can provide a reference for your information, it would be all the better. The real beauty of Wikipedia is that you can actually correct misinformation and not just sit back and complain about it. :-) ⇒ BRossow T/C 14:32, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I have been told that it debuted in 1991.5, but I'm not sure. I would have edited it, but I don't actually have confirmation of WHEN it actually happened ;) -Bhtooefr 20:26, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-1962 Chevrolet Pickups & Other Trucks

Why is there nothing on the preceeding Chevrolet Truck Models(3100-6700 Series)? Am I going to have to create a whole page on this subject? ----DanTD 12:18, 24 May 2006

Well, yes, since those were technically not C/K trucks, they wouldn't be covered on this page. Ayocee 16:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
This whole GM truck article should really go by truck generations, Since the C/K nomenclature started during the 1960-1966 generation. Because of the nature of trucks, especially these having had model numbers with names tacked on somewhat arbitrary, it would be better to treat these by generation, as most other scholarly works on this subject do, ie:
Models to 1939;
1940-1941
1947-1955 First Series (so called "Advanced Design")
1955-1959 Second Series (so called "Task Force")
1960-1966
1967-1972 (so called "integrated styling" or "glamour trucks")
1973-1987
1987-1998
1999-2006
2007-present

Someone has finally written a page for the Advance Design Chevrolet_Advance_Design and Task Force models Chevrolet_Task_Force. This info needs to box for a predecessor to the 1960 models.

[edit] side saddle fuel tanks 73-87

This article should mention that the 1973-87 c/k and its gmc counterparts had fuel tanks near the cab (side saddle fuel tanks). In collisions, they were very vulnerable, and because of their location, if they were hit, it often caused catastrophic fires that could kill the occupants. In other words, these models were the 'pinto of pickups'. I believe this feature of the design eventually led to a lawsuit.

First, please sign your posts. Second, it did lead to at least one lawsuit against GM - but it also led to a lawsuit against NBC by GM which resulted in a very public apology by NBC for not fully disclosing the many problems in their overly dramaticized test, which included an overfilled gas tank, an improper fuel filler cap, and incendiary devices placed on the truck being impacted. The 1973-1987 GM C/K truck was not signifigantly more dangerous than the Ford and Dodge contemporary competitors, and the sheer number of these trucks still on the roads should attest to the actual danger of those tanks in practice. Fire-damaged vehicles are rarely salvaged in any form other than as parts-donor vehicles due to the extensive and effectively irreparable damage caused. It is also extremely unfair to compare it to the Pinto - the Pinto fires were clearly caused by a design flaw that allowed an exposed bolt to easily puncture the rear-mounted tank in even mild rear-impact collisions. While the side-mounted tanks on the truck are not in the safest position, there is no blatant single design flaw that causes them to be punctured in a statistically signifigant number of collisions. Please perform your own research before making wild claims.
Besides, the '67-'72 had the tank mounted inside the cab, directly behind the seat. Mine has yet to explode. Ayocee 04:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

This should be added to the history of the vehicle. It is not a wild claim and can be easily be validated by research. There was more than one lawsuit; there were multiple lawsuits in multiple states. --Haleme 19:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bizarre promotional blurb at end of 73-87 section

I'd hack this out myself, but maybe there is a nugget of fact in there that can be sourced and rephrased:

"The basis for Chevy's slogan, "The Most Dependable, Longest Lasting Trucks on the Road," the 73-87 Chevy/GMC pickup is the most common "old truck" seen today, and for good reason -- they are simple, servicable, reliable, and like all Chevys, have the power to get the job done."

The slogan is a "fact" I guess. The part about them being the most common old truck is a bit assertive - relative to number sold, for instance? And has anyone ever measured this? The part after the hyphen simply needs to go. human 20:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it, whoever did so. Huw Powell 01:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Intake systems

Does anyone have some insight into when the changes were made from normal carb, to electronically controlled carb, throttle body injection, tuned port injection, etc?

they went to throttle body inject in 1987, but some late 1986 models have it as well. 71.207.156.16 12:32, 31 March 2007 (UTC)kp

Feedback carbs were in use on some of the 1981 Oldsmobile passenger cars but I don't know when they were added to the trucks. I do know they were in use by the time they built my 1985 C1500. TBI was 1987 model year on. I think GM used TBI on trucks till the vortec V8 ended production. Tuned Port Injection doesn't apply to the trucks. It was only factory on the F-bodies and Corvettes... I think it started in the 1984 vette and then the 1985 F cars.Hatzie (talk) 19:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photos of trucks

Not to criticize, but I wonder if the photos of the trucks used in this article should be factory stock representations, and not customized models? The reader should have an idea of what the truck looked like when it was originally manufactured, not what a later owner did to it 30 years later, IMO. Photos of factory stock Chevrolet trucks from 1960-1998 — either original factory promotional photos or current-day photos — are readily available and can be posted easily following the guidelines. [[Briguy52748 18:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)]] (P.S. — That said, if there's a section that can be created about the following these trucks have and that some people customize them, then by all means use the picture in that section of the article).

I absolutely agree. Also, I agree that a "custom" truck file might make sense, especially for things that many people do the same way - ie, lift kits, motor upgrades, disc brake conversions, etc. Huw Powell 01:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1967-1972

For those who don't know, these models also offered a 327, and my 67' K20 has 3 fuel tanks 2 saddles and 1 behind the seat. As for glamour truck, i can go places jeeps haven't heard of.

-- 1973-1987--- The author states - correctly that "The R/V designation remained in use for the crewcab bodies and SUVs (Chevrolet K5 Blazer and Suburban) until 1991." The body style for the crew cabs (V designation) did not change to the new platform until 1992. I believe the R designation was for cab and chassis single cab that also retained the older design. The author needs to clarify the 1988-1999 section regarding the fact that the new platform was not applied to the R and V vehicles.


[edit] CK series End

I have a base model 2000 GMC C2500 WT with a 6.5 diesel (not the 6.6 Duramax). If the C/K 3500 ran till 2001 alongside the new body style trucks it would be good to note. It would be similar to the 88-91 R/V full ton dually that had the same body as the previous generation 1/2 ton truck for 4 years past the "end" of 1/2 ton production. Hatzie (talk) 20:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)