Talk:Cheryl Chase (activist)

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Contents 1 Removed some sources and clarified 2 Garbled paragraph 3 LGBT article parentage 4 removal of categories

[edit] Removed some sources and clarified

I removed the Annalee Newitz article because it is chock-a-block full of errors.

I removed the Jen Philips article because it is no longer available (404).

I removed the claim that Cheryl Chase was subjected to "sex change operation" and to "vaginoplasty" because, in fact, I was only subjected to clitorectomy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cherylchase (talk • contribs)

What are the errors in the Newitz article? The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth, so we usually don't remove sources outright, but note contradictory statements in sources. Also, what year did you graduate MIT? As it reads, this happened after you returned from Japan. I want to get the chronology right. Thanks! Jokestress 06:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Garbled paragraph

The first paragraph of the second section has become garbled during edits last February. __meco 10:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT article parentage

I have the impression that interxexuality has been dosowned by the LGBT WikiProject. If this is the case, the project banner should be removed from this article. __meco 10:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] removal of categories

I removed several categories and they were re-instated, with a courteous note on my userpage directing me to WP:CAT. Having read that page in more detail, I would beg to disagree, and think it more productive to discuss the editing choices here. All I will do to the page for now is add the {{Too many categories}}.

From the introduction to the guidelines:

"The categories to be included, which serve as classifications, should be the significant (useful) topics to which the subject of the article most closely belongs to as a member". Also, "If you go to the article from the category, will it be obvious why the article was put in the category? Is the category subject prominently discussed in the article?"

From point 7: "Categories that are not self-evident <snip> should not be included on the article; a list might be a better option."

Point 8: "An article should normally possess all the referenced information necessary to demonstrate that it belongs in each of its categories. Avoid including categories in an article if the article itself doesn't adequately show it belongs there."

From these basic guidelines, some of the categories are not appropriate (which of course does not mean that they are not true). Nowhere in the article does it suggest she is a businessperson or an Irish American. Being from New Jersey and formerly being an ex-patriate are not "significant useful topics". I believe these should be deleted. BrainyBabe (talk) 09:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

You have a good point about the Irish American and business people categories. If the article does not discuss them, they should be removed (as per point 7 & 8). However you are misinterpreting the use of the phrase "significant (useful) topics." This does not mean that the person is known primarily for that topic: this is explained in the sentences following the quote you mentioned. For instance, Oprah Winfrey may not be well-known for being a American of Native American Descent and Peter Sagal is not defined primarily by his hometown being New Jersey. Significant is an adjective modifying the topic. So in the former cases: Americans of Native American Descent and People from New Jersey are considered significant topics. If you don't consider those categories significant, you can nominate them for deletion. If you don't feel that Cheryl Chase belongs in a category (either because she isn't, say, from New Jersey or there is a more specific category she more closely belongs in, say, Activists from New Jersey) that would be a good reason for its removal. Queerudite (talk) 22:11, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've removed the two we agree about. I will think about the others. Too tired now! BrainyBabe (talk) 00:15, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've gone and removed one category, Intersexuality, by creating a new combo category, American intersex activists, which right now just has her (hir?). I don't think it can or needs to be shortened any more right now -- eight is a perfectly respectable number of categories. Lenoxus " * " 19:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)