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[edit] Citations needed

Of course I am completely in favor of citing sources. However, it is visually obnoxious and unpleasant to read text wherein "Citation needed" is attached to the end of every single uncited sentence. A better approach would be to find a suitable banner saying something to the effect of "Please help this article by adding references". All these tags were apparently added by the same person in December of 2007, but to such a degree that, even if done with good intentions, the effect was counter-productive even to a person like me who is not a big Cher fan and was not even reading closely. It was like reading a homeopathy article that had been discovered by an evangelical skeptic. Saudade7 09:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cher in if i could turn back time.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cher in the shoop shoop song.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Logo


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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cher logo.gif

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[edit] 200 million

the 200 million figures for her record sales are ludicrous. yes I realize there is an article there but that is hardly a reliable source for album figures and we all know certain sources inflate or report figures without even checking. sources from billboard or even her record company (which could inflate figures anyway) would be more reliable

the reason I say this is that one of cher's best selling albums, believe, only went 4x platinum in the US. in her decades long career she's only sold 12.5 million albums in the US, there is no way that translates to freaking 200 million worldwide (even if you're counting records and therefore albums and singles she wouldn't reach that far). it's ABSURD. Radioalertbits (talk) 19:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Personal wealth

In the Personal Wealth section, this sentence appears:

"Her current wealth easily reaches over US$1000 million by now."

A thousand million is a billion. So is Cher worth a billion? This seems like sheer conjecture. Sources anyone? Kinkyturnip (talk) 06:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Grandchildren?

Does Elijah Blue have any children?He's well over thirty now,so I wonder if Cher's a grandmother yet?


[edit] Album sales

The sales listed here are very very inflated. The sources offered are meaningless sources. Come on now..no one in their right mind would believe Cher sold that much. Nothing in official sources like the RIAA would support that. Tubesscalle (talk) 18:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] LUDICROUS

Her RIAA total only stands at 12.5 million for the US. for her entire career. even if a few albums here and there may add up that aren't certified she wouldn't even reach 20 million. even counting sales with sonny. her major markets are US and europe. her sales figures are 50 million worldwide at most, nowhere near 275 million records. how stupid do you think people are? yes certain articles list certain things but when it comes to music sales subjectivity and different sources can only be considered to an extent when we have riaa, soundscan, ifpi, or even record labels. if cher sold 275 million records, then michael jackson must have sold 10 billion records, the beatles 100 billion records, madonna 800 million records. and so on so forth. cher was NEVER a huge seller and most of her stuff with sonny flopped. she's endured throughout the ages with surprising oscar wins, big hits here and there in many different eras, but she was never that huge for any extended period of time. her best selling album "believe" didn't even reach 20 million copies worldwide and none of her other albums even come close to that album's success. GET A GRIP PEOPLE.Thisstepthisstepp (talk) 21:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] rob camilletti

did you know that cher's ex boytoy has a teenage child born in 1993 due to a one night stand.

can u imagine if it was cher's child with robert.