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[edit] To do

  • A section on the religions of the area would be helpful.
  • We could use some satellite photos or aerial photos of the city. Digitalglobe has a few low-res photos showing a large area, but Spaceimaging has better photos, like these. If you see any decent photos like these, please list them here.
  • We need photos! Most of the photos online aren't high quality, or they are copyrighted. People in Chennai, if possible please try to take some of these photos and upload them yourselves - that will make it completely free of copyright issues. As of now, I've identified the following photo subjects. Please add others you feel necessary. -- Brhaspati 10:33, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC)
    • One of (MA Chidambaram Stadium, Nehru Stadium).
    • One of Chennai port/container area floodlit at night. This is best taken from the top of the Royapuram bridge, coming south towards Parry's.
    • One showing the Cooum river, or the Buckingham Canal north of Central. This photo should convey the extent of pollution. :see More Pictures
  • A Section on the main attractions of chennai - Sunil, 16:50 MST, 29 Nov 2006
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[edit] Coordinates

The coordinates at the top of the article overlap another set of coordinates. Can someone correct this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 155.69.5.234 (talk) 05:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

The {{Geolinks-cityscale}} template conflicts with Infobox template. I have commented out the Geolinks template so that coordinates don't overlap. This needs to be fixed. ɤіɡʍаɦɤʘʟʟ 17:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Urban sprawl in Chennai

I am not happy about the contents written in Demographics section regarding the urban sprawl. Chennai clearly does not have urban sprawl like you see in American/European cities. Look at the population density of LA/Chicago and compare them with Chennai.

City of Chennai is among the densest cities in the world (most of them are Asian cities) and is as dense as any other metro in India. Also, Chennai metropolitan region has very little urban sprawl: 70% of metropolitan population live with the city limits. And whatever population that is outside the city boundaries live along the suburban rail network (Egmore-Tambaram, Central-Avadi and Central-Gummidipoondi). From energy consumption perspective, Chennai is a well planned city compared to most American urban regions (except NYC) that are essentially sub-urban.

[edit] chennai area locator maps

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Just created location map for chennai. Some fine tuning necessary here on the top left and bottom right coordinates of the map. Its time we make a Chennai infobox and add it to all chennai places. The map is not complete and i just put it together using google maps (god bless them), i will modify it later over the next weekend. Right now pls look into implementing it in infoboxes -- PlaneMad|YakYak 20:25, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Infobox created, Ive added it to a few pages as a test to check positioning, see Mylapore for example. Template can be edited here [1]. We need to decide what fields need to be included-- PlaneMad|YakYak 15:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing Transport section

User:Butter1 has repated re-inserted the following information only for other editors to remove it with various justifications. Rather than edit warring in the article, please discussion your positions for or against the inclusion of this material below. Please wait until editors reach a consensus before re-inserting the information (or permanantly leaving it out). Thanks.

"Auto rickshaws commonly called as Auto. New auto rickshaw fares are fixed by the state government of Tamilnadu in the month January 2007 and the auto drivers should follow only as per that government order. As per that order for the first 2km the charge is Rs.14 and Rs.6 from next kilometre onwards. If any problems arises passengers can lodge complaints against autorickshaw drivers by calling phone numbers of Chennai Police[[2]]"

I am removing the ref links for the auto fares. It does not have any context in the article. ɤіɡʍаɦɤʘʟʟ 00:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] list of corporation wards

I have made the List of Chennai Corporation wards page. please try to improve upon it. Also Template:Infobox Chennai place is almost finished, please give your comments -- PlaneMad|YakYak 09:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Infobox image or map?

We have to decide how to go ahead with the infobox. We can either use the image or use the map but not both. I personally prefer the map, but let us discuss this. I will comment out the image until we decide on this. ɤіɡʍаɦɤʘʟʟ 00:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Its simple, the locator map for landmarks, structures (Chennai Central) etc. and the infobox for places (Mylapore) -- PlaneMad|YakYak 16:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Most cities have an image that defines the city (landmark or skyline) in the infobox and a map below it. Since this is an encyclopedia, we must conform to the standards set by wikipedia in its city infobox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_City). Nikkul 01:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photographs

Folks, I've got some photos of Chennai - including St. Mary's church in the fort, The container terminal at night, MAC stadium, Napier Bridge, Marina and more. Can release them under a GFDL if you need it. Alternatively, some of the photos are on my flickr page http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages under a CC Attrib+ShareAlike license. --Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan

Linking to Flickr is discouraged under the external link guidelines WP:EL. Better to upload them to Wikipedia under GFDL. Nposs 13:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok. Have uploaded some photos...under GFDL. Here they are:

--Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 05:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

How about links to blogs about Chennai? Like the Metroblogging Chennai website, which covers a lot of topics about daily life in Chennai? (Disclaimer: I write for the blog too) --Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 08:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Blogs are considered unencyclopedic sources under WP:EL. I'd recommend against linking. Nposs 13:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Area Locator Map

I feel that the area locator map should be the India map instead of the Tamil Nadu state map. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nashcode (talkcontribs).

Please discuss this issue at Template_talk:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 00:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
India map is now shown inset on the map. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 16:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need more balanced coverage

Just an observation: The Chennai Wikipedia page reads like a marketing brochure, prepared by the Chamber of commerce of the city. The article only has positive things about the city, and the photos are all airbrushed and sanitised. A new visitor to the city will be quite shocked by the reality of the city. I would like to see a more balanced description, including some typical street photos, some mention of the poverty and the other problems which are visible to any visitor. No offense is intended to those who have contributed great content.

[edit] Portuguese origins of the name Madras

Good evening all,
A more likely origin for the name Madras, if indeed it derives from Portuguese, is Madre de Deus (meaning mother of god), not Madre de Sois -which has no meaning in Portuguese and is ungrammatical.
Soís is the plural of sol, which means sun; so a possibility is "madre dos soís" -grammatically correct and meaning 'mother of the suns'. Very poetic, but rather unlikely -given that there is no record of similar place names. And the corruption of "madre dos soís" to "madras" is somewhat tenuous phonologically.
On the other hand, Madre de Deus is quite common (see Madre de Deus in Bahia, Brazil), and since the final s in Deus is usually emphasized, would make a corruption into Madras in spoken Tamil quite possible.
Even if 'Sois' was the name of a person (and Sois is not a Portuguese name I have ever come across), "mother of-" prefixes for city names have never been followed by a proper noun: there are no cities called 'Mother of Joe' or 'Mother of Leo', for instance :)
Hope this is helpful (even if it matters little now that we have Chennai).
(Azariahmoreno 00:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)).

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Tnlogo.png

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[edit] Francis Day and Beri Thimappa

Hi, just discovered that the two people instrumental to the formation of Madras - Francis Day and Beri Thimappa - didn't have a page on Wikipedia. Have created it, and for Day, used the content from the Andrew Cogan page. Will need help in adding to it. Here are the pages: Francis Day of Madras and Beri Thimappa. --Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 06:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Good work, Chandrachoodan! -- Sundar \talk \contribs 15:19, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article improvement

Thanks to the recent drive by Lotlil et al., the article is in a good shape. Congrats! -- Sundar \talk \contribs 15:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging sections

I think the subsection "Administrative divisions" under Geography, should be merged with the section "Administration". Any objections? Lotlil 22:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh and btw, we shouldn't be talking about talukas in this article, since they are related to the district administration and not that of the city. I will be removing the references to talukas and the corresponding image.Lotlil 22:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I was thinking of removing these images:

  1. Chennai and surrounding towns in the Geography section (since the other image serves the purpose).
  2. Luz corner picture in the Transport section and replace it with this picture of the Koyambedu bus terminus.

Thoughts? Lotlil 03:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree, especially the Luz corner picture HAS TO go. ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε †αLҝ 09:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Largest cultural event

The article claims that the Madras music season is one of the largest such in the world. Though it is sourced to a RS, I feel it is a little exaggerated. The op-ed that is being sourced doesnt mention several things and I'm afraid the passing mention in the article may be being taken out of context. For one, the so called Madras music season is not held under the aegis of one organisation or organiser. It is infact, a collection of individual efforts. Basically, there are around 50 or 100 sabhas which organise concerts in their own individual capacities. In fact, the sabhas dont even start and end the season together. Typically, there are 2-4 concerts per day, with 2 of the four being reserved for amateurs(with attendances of not more than a dozen people) the 3rd is semi-amateur(once again with very sparse attendance) and a fourth concert which is the highlight of the day and by the biggest names in the field. The fourth which is in the evening usually draws the maximum attendance. And even these concerts, the typical attendance is about 150-200 people(the seating capacity itself is not much more than that in most sabhas). Of course, few premier sabhas like the Music academy(and maybe half a dozen others) draw much larger audiences but on an average, it is not much more than 200 people for the most important concert of the day. And this goes on for a month. Doing the math and considering the fact that it is in fact not an event that one single organisation or even the government organises, I think it is a little far fetched to call it the one of largest cultural event "in the world"! Exceptional claims require exceptional sources and I'd be glad if somebody could come up with a better source than a throw away mention in an op-ed. Sarvagnya 05:17, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyediting

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[edit] Change Notes layout?

Hi. I'm thinking about changing the "Notes" section to be like that of Tamil Nadu#References (scroll bar with small amount showing). The current format takes a lot of space despite being in two columns. Are there reasons not to? Since this is a featured article, I don't want to mess it up. Skumarla (talk) 08:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for offering to improve the layout. I'd prefer something like Political integration of India#Notes with each note being short and linking to a reference in the reference section, though a scrollbar as in Tamil Nadu article would be a plus. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some photos from the IPL T20 CSK vs. KKR

Hello, Uploaded a photo from the recent IPL match in Chepauk against Kolkata to Wikicommons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:IPL_T20_Chennai_vs_Kolkata.JPG) . Will upload more, but if you need to use them, they are on flickr and governed by a CC-by-sa-nc license. --Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan (talk) 09:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pics

The city of Chennai seen from St Thomas Mount
The city of Chennai seen from St Thomas Mount
An IPL match in progress at M.A. Chidambaram Cricket Stadium
An IPL match in progress at M.A. Chidambaram Cricket Stadium
M.A. Chidambaram Cricket Stadium
M.A. Chidambaram Cricket Stadium

I find that the article could do with better quality pics. Most images in the article are just boring with no activity at all. In the sports section the ipl pic is a lot more interesting than the empty stadium. And the panorama is a better alternative than the blurry landsat map -- PlaneMad|YakYak 06:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I like the panaroma. I also like the new stadium picture. I would support the inclusion.Docku (talk) 12:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Upload the panorama. I'm not so sure about the CSK picture, because apparently the IPL has rights on all pictures taken in a match. - Amog |Talk 08:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Entertainment

I am a little intrigued by the fact that there is no topic related to entertainment in and around the city. I guess we need to talk about the movie theatres, shopping, museums,beaches, theme parks, zoo, night life and all kind of stuff. Well, it may overlap a little bit with culture, nevertheless, it will be useful. Any thoughts on this. Docku (talk) 19:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)