Talk:Cheddar Gorge and Caves

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I moved the ISIHAC link to Cheddar Gorge (game), so this can be given over to your actual gorge.

Contents

[edit] GA On Hold

I've made some minor Manual of Style type edits. Still, several issues with verifiability, quality of prose, and coverage remain:

  • Gorge section contains way too little citations. Citations are needed for first two paragraphs which have non-trivial statements.
  • Caves section: don't just say spectacular geology or intricate formations, give details using geologic terminology and say something about their formation (see undue weight comment below).
  • Other attractions reads too much like, well, the brochure. There is no need to mention which direction is chargeable or give the reader steep cliff warnings or all these goods that can be obtained nearby.
  • Other attractions gets too much weight: talk more about the geologic history of the area and its formation instead.
  • Prose is a bit choppy in places like third paragraph of Gorge section. Rephrase/rewrite some sentences.
  • I'm a little worried about using the tourist company that manages the caves as a reliable source. Try to find some third party for those citations.

This is a lot and I was close to failing this article, but given its narrow scope, I think these changes can be made in a week. I'd be glad to assist or clarify any of these criticisms. --Meowist 03:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I did not nominate this article but have added more information (& references) on the geology, reduced the size (& peacock phrases) in other attractions, and found alternative references for the discovery of the caves. Not sure about the "choppy prose" comment.— Rod talk 21:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes 8/12/07

Citations for largest, oldest, etc. have been added. Novickas 16:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pass as Good Article

This article has been on hold for a while so I have taken the decision to Pass it as a Good Article. Many of the suggestions above have been implemented and the article seems in much better shape. Further improvements to the article are certainly possible:

  • The intro talks about the cheddar man however he is hardly mentioned in the rest of the article (See WP:LEAD)
  • In the cave section it says the caves are known for their geology - it would be nice if this could be elaborated on.
  • Finally the last section doesn't have a reference for the inforamtion - If one general source could be found that would be good.

Overall a good article, and hopefully these suggestions will help in the future. Congratulations to the editors. Suicidalhamster 12:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm Sorry, I Haven't A Clue

Not one reference to the Cheddar Gorge game, or "I'm Sorry, I Haven't A Clue"? -Shame Bogger 15:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

You could always add a comment about this to the article , however, the link is tenuous and may constitute trivia.— Rod talk 15:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)