User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry
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I am a member of the Armed Forces of The Crown and may be away from Wikipedia for long periods of time, but will most probably return. Emails sent to me, and messages left on my talk page may not be replied to for a while.
[edit] GGWOI am glad this page is protected but it has become obvious to me that the debate will eventually create an article that leaves it as a self promotion tool for an organization, or lacking the reasons, the people and the history why this organization is notable in the first place. I have read many of the discussion points and I feel like I am discussing the organization with members of the group using their own terminology or lingo instead of English and common terms. Maybe if those involved are serious they will not try to turn this into an ad about the organization and white wash the history or worse portray it in a way where it becomes a set of untruths. If and when the editors want honest and sincere help in writing a good article they will take the input of others, untill their are other articles to be written. Tryster (talk) 02:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC) Hi, thank you for protecting the page. I would like to have a reasonable conversation about it before we move forward. Unfortunately, I am having trouble posting to the talk page. Can you help with that?Spinkava (talk) 20:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC) I read your note and must tell you that I have intentionally tried to have a neutral view point. I have tried to read and re-read the articles to the point of trying to see a non unbias position being taken. I have tried to make sure any statement within reason is based upon or grounded in facts that cannot only be referenced but also found in multiple sources. When it comes to Greater Grace and those related to it, the media sources are extreme. I went out of my way to speak to the historical significance. I will use references to do this more so, but just as a matter of points here. GGWO when it was the bible speaks ended up in bankruptcy over a civil case that was one of the biggest in religious history. It involved the heiress of the Dalton family. Can we say "Target" bullseye? I can load up the articles with references and known quotes.Ironically many pages that are on wikipedia used materials I wrote a decade ago for religious journals.I do not demand that material I copyrighted be marked or pulled because somebody has taken license to use it. It is hard to see that somehow what I have written which is factual based not opinionated pieces is marked as being a conflict of interest. Maybe I being stupid here but I believe the piecen is very balanced. Please don't use the administrative priveledge to suggest something about an article when to even the naked eye its very obvious that whoever wrote it was indeed going out of their way to write in balance as any article of this should be written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tryster (talk • contribs) 00:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC) [edit] User:JTrysterPlease do not allow there to be attacks against the greater Grace World Outreach page. I am making hard efforts to make this article balanced and not a fre for all. If you have a bias against any negatives being posted about the organization please recuse yourself from editing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tryster (talk • contribs) 15:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC) [edit] User:JccmcapitalOK, I’ve done my best. But to no avail. This person is a control freak! Check out the discussion on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tintle How can we make this work? Thanks: Jcmcapital (talk) 01:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC) OK thanks, but the person that has eliminated many of my additions, and has been admonished for doing such by others has not been available on her talk page, and unresponsive to me. What to do? Jcmcapital (talk) 22:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] BlockI thought your block of Eastmids2007 was rather harsh considering he had not received a final notice and the article he was editing has been deleted today. I would have thought that was enough response for the time being unless he returns and reposts the same article and/or starts spamming again. Just my 2c worth, but I am watching him! Cheers - I reply where I post. ww2censor (talk) 22:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tramadol semiprotect
[edit] Query on blockHello. Just curious as to why you blocked 198.7.241.81 (talk · contribs) [1]. I was going to "decline block for inactive IP" as the address in question has not edited since January 19th. --Kralizec! (talk) 16:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] e-mailCan I ask a stupid question regarding this situation? How does one check the e-mail as noted in the complaint? Thanks. - Revolving Bugbear 17:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scotstown Primary SchoolHi, just to check that you are cool with me making a new redirect to Bridge of Don where I intend to add some content? TerriersFan (talk) 18:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] IPs 156.34xHello, remember all those band articles you've restored after the User: 156.34.221.194 had his fun with them? Well, he's doing it again, this time as User: 156.34.142.110. Please, PLEASE, do something about it... Óðinn (talk) 18:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Issue with Skin/S.K.I.N. titlingHello! I noticed you had some involvement with the previous dispute in the Skin (Japanese band) article some months ago. I wish I'd been there at the time because I've got some pretty undeniable proof of the band name that was such a big deal. JRock Revolution is the official site for the JRock Revolution festival and is at the moment the official site for the band. In their FAQ, it says:
and also on what it abbreviates:
The link to this official FAQ is here: http://jrockrevolution.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=71&Itemid=25 I've also posted these things in the discussion section of the article, but don't expect it to get any attention since things have become dead quiet since its lock a few months ago. So, seeing that you had been involved, I hoped to get some closure on the issue, and also give some other bands or artists their name back. XD Thanks a lot for the help now and in the past, and I look forward to knowing the outcome of this. :) (Tsukiakari (talk) 02:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)) [edit] RevertsI'm not sure that this was correct. The logo seems like an abuse of a nonfree image, and to add nothing; and, per WP:FLAG, such use of flags in an infobox is generally deprecated. Why not join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox Musical artist instead, and save the reverts for unambiguous vandalism, which I do not think this was? Best wishes, --John (talk) 03:10, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] lolcat bibleCheers for your message on my talk page about the lolcatbible AfD result. I'm still considering my plan for merging it into the lolcat article, I have found a few more sources, but I'm thinking adding that new section to the main article, and beefing that up, then maybe splitting it off again if/when loads more sources come in, might be the best idea. The lolcat article doesn't seem too far off GA-level, so there may be something in there. But yes, either way I'm up for taking it on, once I've finished this awfully torturous essay on DAT machines for the end of this semester, I'll get down to work on it! Cheers, - Zeibura ( talk ) 12:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC) [edit] Semi-Protection of NoYour indefinite semi-protection of this page is against our protection policy. Pages should only be permanently (semi-)protected if there is long term abuse and I don't see this from the page history. Indeed the vandalism appears to have been one instance so protection would almost certainly be refused at RFPP. Please can you reconsider this. Spartaz Humbug! 22:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Protection of WW2OLI've unprotected the page - the protection has been in force two months, the dispute is stale and the MedCabal case is essentially inactive. We should keep protection to the minimum needed. FCYTravis (talk) 01:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC) [edit] VadamaSir, may I remind you of an instance, on the 17th of January, when you had blocked the I.P. address 203.101.110.2 for repeated vandalism of the article on Iyers? The user in question was also given to vandalising the page on Vadama, a sub-category of the Iyers, and after the lapse of your ban, has taken to defacing this latter page with redoubled enthusiasm. I have on numerous occasions reverted his edits, but seem to have failed in checking him. May I request you to consider further punitive measures against this known depredator? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.226.42.84 (talk) 16:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC) [edit] 8th London WIkipedia Meetup: POSTPONED!Hi! I've decided to postpone the meetup pending a new date, as too many regulars / people who signed up have said that they will not likely make it. Please go over to the talk page and let's discuss a new date! Poeloq (talk) 01:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC) [edit] Regine VelasquezHowdy! Thank you sir, for placing the Regine Velasquez article on semi-protect. Maoster (talk) 18:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC) [edit] Wakefield Beasley & AssociatesYou deleted an article on Wakefield Beasley & Associates without posting discussion in the discussion section, which is a breach of Wikipedia policy, and caused a link invalidation on the Cumberland (Atlanta) article. Wakefield Beasley & Associates has been covered in AJC (in print) and obviously if you did a Google search, you'd see them covered quite a bit online: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=wakefield+Beasley+%26+Associates&btnG=Google+Search Just because you haven't heard of them doesn't mean they don't have significance. [edit] Issues on South AsiaThere currently is an issue on the article South Asia, as for whether it should focus on geopolitical South Asia or a broader cultural definition (mainly argued against by User:MainBody, who apparently hasn't noticed that the East Asia article displays both geopolitical and cultural definitions). This issue erupted over Tibet being listed on the page and was caused by a Hong Kong public ip address. Considering you were one of the few administrators to ever write on the South Asia talk page, I am inviting you to help in this argument. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 20:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC) [edit] Your monobook.jsCould you please edit your javascript so that it wont include itself in Category:Tor_proxies_blocked_on_Wikipedia. Something like: var lang = new Array( '[[WP:VAND|Vandalism]]-only account', '[[WP:3RR|Three-revert rule]] violation', '[[WP:EW|Edit warring]]', 'Abusing [[WP:SOCK|multiple accounts]]', '{{' + 'blocked proxy}}', '{{' + 'tor}}', '{{' + 'UsernameBlocked}}', '{{' + 'UsernameHardBlocked}}' ); should do the trick. Q T C 02:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC) [edit] Speedy deletion of Template:User UK-Military-maybe-not-hereA tag has been placed on Template:User UK-Military-maybe-not-here requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted. If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>). Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC) [edit] Help pleaseHi pleased to meet you. I'm in need of your help, the Jatt Sikh article is under heavy anon vandal attack (probably by User:Harrybabbar - a legendary vandal). Please can you semi protect it. Thankyou. P.S. Please can you not put the big semi protect label at top of article but just put the small semi protect label so it is less distracting for the readers. Thankyou.--James smith2 (talk) 06:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC) [edit] unwarranted tagging of articleThis article has improved substantially from previous versions. The current version has remained well-recieved for a significant period of time and does not warrant 'tagging'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlanneryFamily (talk • contribs) 07:11, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tae Yun KimCan you please check my personal talk page, I'm not sure if you're watching it. I have a question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmhunter (talk • contribs) 00:29, 23 March 2008 (UTC) I updated that page again, tell me what you think. Also on COL program a member is citing that the data falls under the "NOR" policy? Can you please rpovide third party evaluation on that please. I am try to make compromise, but I don't want to give up the whole purpose of the article. Jmhunter (talk) 01:40, 23 March 2008 (UTC) How can i get a member from constantly clearing COL program? Jmhunter (talk) 05:02, 23 March 2008 (UTC) [edit] DRVI see nobody has dropped by yet to remark on your closing statement at the Murphy DRV. Just thought that I should say - I didn't participate in the discussion - that it was pretty decent. An occasional step back to remember what we're doing is salutary indeed. (Plus I'm amused that after ChrisO's terrifying post on WP:AN it took the Cavalry, as it were, to step up and get the job done.) Happy Easter. Relata refero (talk) 05:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC) [edit] Tae Yun Kim and COL Program pagesThank you for removing the Tae Yun Kim article. You are correct, it was created as an attack page, and attempts to change it into a legitimate source of information were resisted by users with an intent to cause harm. The COL program article was created for the same purpose as the Tae Yun Kim article, as an attack page (it was referenced by the Tae Yun Kim article). It includes some of the same inappropriate links and information that were originally removed from the Tae Yun Kim article, and almost none of the information on it is sourced or verifiable. In addition to the inappropriate intent of the article, I think it would be a candidate for speedy deletion (A7), except that the group it talks about no longer exists. Unfortunately, it still has the potential to be hurtful to people who were at one time members of the group, so some method of removing the attack information is needed. I don't have time to correct the edits of users who undo my changes minutes after I make them, so I'm open to any suggestions on how to handle it. Thank you MThomas333 (talk) 09:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I would caution you on drawing conclusions, though. Having seen this particular difference of opinion from both sides at different times, I’ve found that what “obviously” meant one thing when one person presented it to me became equally “obvious” to mean something totally different when a different person told their side of it. Almost anything is obvious if we only listen to only one side of the story. And Wikipedia isn’t about presenting stories – it’s about presenting verified information. Although it’s difficult sometimes to “forget” the initial slant we heard, ask yourself if you think it would have been “obvious” if you heard only the facts first, without someone interpreting them for you? Or if one of the people being targeted had explained them to you first instead? Chances are the answer is no. And you’re very experienced at separating fact from opinion; other people who read WP might not even know to try. And that’s the reason these articles were created on WP – speculation, unverifiable claims, and innuendo to convince people to think negatively. Once you’ve gotten people thinking negatively, then even if you’re later forced to present only the facts, they’re a lot more likely to interpret them negatively, and they’re a lot more likely to think any other explanation of the facts is defensive (if it takes me this long to explain it then I must be defensive, right?); score one for the smear campaign. The references to court cases that have been made is an example, and it’s a challenge because most people don’t understand enough of the law for 1 or 2 sentences to explain it, so the explanation tends to be long (again sounding defensive). But I’ll risk being long-winded here, because this is person-to-person, and I think it’s important for all WP articles, not just this one. The outcomes of most (maybe all) of the cases cited aren’t public (in fact, it’s usually a term of a sealed lawsuit that neither party is allowed to reveal the outcome), which means that any explanation made of the outcome is either pure speculation or intentional slant against one party or the other. Even if you leave out the speculation about the results, just mentioning that someone was named as a defendant in a lawsuit without including the outcome of the suit is a way to try and get people to assume guilt. For example, the class action lawsuit against Wikipedia accuses WP of some very unflattering things. If WP decided to settle rather than spend millions of dollars to fight it, and the terms of the settlement were that the results were to be kept private (and this is quite common in settlements between private parties in the U.S.), anyone looking at the lawsuit would see only the accusations. A very unflattering picture, which could lead you to some negative conclusions – even if the terms of the settlement included the plaintiff apologizing and completely admitting Wikipedia wasn’t at fault and that the suit was baseless. So why settle? If someone sued you personally and falsely accused you of some very unflattering things, you’d probably want to fight it to the end and make sure that it was public knowledge that the accusation was baseless. But your bank account might not let you take it that far, so you might end up settling, even knowing it would hurt your reputation in the long run. Hmmm, that’s a tough one… do I sell my house, go deeply into debt, and risk bankruptcy to defend my reputation; or do I settle out of court, getting the accuser to pay my court fees and drop the suit as long as I accept the accusers terms that the results not be made public (knowing it may hurt my reputation several years down the road if someone looks up the lawsuit)? If you’ve ever been involved in this kind of a lawsuit, you probably know all of this, so you won’t jump to conclusions when you hear someone was sued without hearing the outcome of the case. But if you don’t know this (and that includes most people), it takes a long time to explain why just the filing of the lawsuit doesn’t mean anything one way or the other. Bottom line, it's alot easier to make an unfounded accusation or innuendo than it is to show that it's unfounded; most people won’t take the time to understand it. But – all that being said, rather than cover new ground here, I expect we just need to look at other WP pages to see what’s normal and acceptable. If references to lawsuits with unknown or sealed outcomes aren’t included on other WP pages, they probably don’t belong here either; I haven’t seen them other places yet, but with your experience you’ll be a much better judge of this. I won’t go into much detail on the Inside Edition story cited, but I will say that some ethically challenged tabloid media practices of checkbook journalism, misrepresentation, and explicit lying to interviewees all took place, and some of the people who said some of the worst things have since apologized and said they were wrong. Of course you won’t see the network showing the apology on TV – they were out to tell a story to win viewers and sell advertising, not to be balanced or to get to the truth. But none of my knowledge of what really happened with that video is documented and verifiable either, so that’s why I don’t include it in my edits – it’s inappropriate for WP. However, regardless of the specifics of this story, since newspapers and regular TV news get criticized for citing tabloid shows as sources, those tabloid shows hardly seem reliable sources for WP articles either. I could go through each of the references cited and show the same, point by point. And I may, but I really hope it’s not necessary – it’s time consuming, and I have a real life and a real job and I don’t have as much time to spend on this as the people putting up the negative information seem to have. There are web sites where these people can (and do) say whatever insults, false accusations, negative speculation, and obscenities they can think up. And there are places where other people can say all the wonderful, positive, supportive things they want. WP isn’t the place for either one of them, and since this page, like the others, was just created as a forum to disseminate negative opinion, it doesn't seem to belong. Final question: Is this article really notable without the context of the Tae Yun Kim attack page that was already deleted? The only places on the web that seem to reference this particular program seem to be the aforementioned sites where negative discussions take place, so I’m not sure WP is the place for it. Thanks MThomas333 (talk) 00:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC) FTR, I just rewrote the Tae Yun Kim page as a stub. I also reverted some of Mthomas's frivelous edits on COL program. Cav, MThomas, all the best j Jmhunter (talk) 19:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Please check my changes and comments on the Tae Yun Kim and Col program pages. Thanks. MThomas333 (talk) 12:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC) [edit] Help!First of all, nice to see you back. God bless you for the work you do. Second, please place a permanent block on User:Megaman star for pure vandalism and ridiculous, childish anti-Semitism. Thanks and happy Easter! --PMDrive1061 (talk) 17:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] ReturnNice to see you back! Rudget. 19:42, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Najin-class_frigate.jpg Thanks for uploading Image:Najin-class_frigate.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged. As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 19:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. MECU≈talk 19:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC) [edit] Image:GeorgeCyberquiff.jpg listed for deletionAn image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:GeorgeCyberquiff.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Nv8200p talk 03:23, 2 April 2008 (UTC) [edit] 65.29.105.90You're right. The user warning was actually issued on this day in 2007, so my apologies for that. If I'd looked a bit more closely . . . Anyway, have issued a level one warning as it was still vandalism. Interestingly, I wonder what the chances of making that mistake are. Paul20070 (talk) 16:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thank you Officer!For your prompt protective action and vandal-blocking on Hogenakkal! - Max - You were saying? 17:08, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 1st Cavalry ArmyWould you like to tell me what is your problem with the image of the flag you deleted?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 10:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Question about final warningsRegarding the warning I gave to 116.12.133.242 (talk · contribs), I'm confused. What is not "final" about the warning uw-vandalism3? It says "Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing". There is no logical difference between this and uw-vandalism4, which says "This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing". The only difference is in the tone of voide, the word "last warning" and some words in bold, but the meaning is the same. Using uw-vandalism3 and then not blocking the user if they ignore it and vandalise again just makes the person who warned them look silly. If uw-vandalism3 is not regarded as sufficient warning for a block, it should be reworded. In effect it should say "if you vandalize again, you will get a final warning, and if you vandalise again after that, you will be blocked"? Or am I missing something? Zaian (talk) 09:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] RestaurantsChase me, I note you have flagged and deleted articles I created for restaurants on the Restaurant World Top 50 List. It appears an anomoly that certain entries on the list do not have further information, particularly as they fit into the criteria for Food and Drink Wikipedia project. I hope to enhance the articles with more information about the chefs etc Vivbaker (talk) 22:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] My AIV reportper;
It seems to me that this user has mistaken a nickname for a name change. A similer situation can be found in the neighbouring town of Wigan. Here, the fans of the football team refer to the rugby team, Wigan Warriors as Wigan Rugby. This user seems to be misunderstanding the fans of Bolton Wanderers football club calling the baseball team, Bolton Blaze, Bolton Baseball. Blaze actually changed thier name to Blaze in 2006. My main reason for the AIV report is the fact that the user is using an account and his IP to make the edits. I assume he's doing this to avoid the 3RR rule. Cheers TheProf - T / C 16:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Kudos on two counts
 First, for dealing with another Voice of Britain sock; Second, for having one of the most memorable usernames on the English Wikipedia. It brings a smile to my face every time I see it. I am concerned however that your branch of service may not be compatible with your username, as horses don't ordinarily excel at nautical pursuits. Best wishes. --SSBohio 17:19, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] prod that was speediedPlease restore Dollis Hill Synagogue. The synagogue is apparently of historic notability, and was sourced. At the very least it was not a speedy. Since most of the Jewish topics editors are away from Wikipedia this week, please send to afd if you like after Passover (ends on Monday night). DGG (talk) 22:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC) [edit] PTSD talk pageI noticed you removed FahrenhorstO's comment at Talk:Posttraumatic stress disorder. I realize that the user has been blocked as a sockpuppet, but was it really appropriate to revert relevant material from a talk page in this case? It didn't seem to me to fall under any of the cases where editing others' comments is acceptable (per guidelines). Let me note that I completely disagree with Farenhorst's implication that PTSD isn't a real disorder; I'm just not sure it was necessary to remove the comment in this case. Let me know if there's an aspect of this I'm not understanding. Thanks! Zefryl (talk) 14:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Please unblock Pamlico 140I would suggest that this block is inappropriate. The editor appears to be a kayaking enthusiast who, on Wikipedia and elsewhere, takes his/her username from a favorite model of kayak. This may not be the best choice, but there are any number of other editors who take their usernames from favored movies, albums, songs, etc without complaint. The user who quite aggressively proposed the block also falsely accused the editor of spamming after he/she wrote an article about the kayak model; it is quite a stretch, to say the least, to characterize an article which describes a product as "obsolete" and "discontinued" as promotional spam. Minos P. Dautrieve (talk) 02:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Oskar Minkowski & Minkowski PrizeHi, The place of birth is IMO less important. If you were born during a transatlantic flight what your nationality would be ? Where he was born or even what nationality he eventually was for me is irrelevant to the content of the article in question.
[edit] Unprotect Objectivism articleHello: Since the article needs editing, and there is only one user against the consensus (thus continued reverting would be an issue with this user - not the hallmark of a debate), could we lift the protection earlier?. Article improvement may help alleviate the anonymous user's concerns somewhat, and although persistent reverting may be disruptive, at least editing of the article may continue. We can always re-instate protection or semi-protection if things get out-of-hand. Thanks, Karbinski (talk) 05:57, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a consensus, as the version Karbinski favors violates NPOV and relies on a POV fork. You may well wind up protecting it again, since I have no choice but to revert the unacceptable changes. I do request that the protection be full, not semi, so as not to favor anyone. - Bert 18:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.111.29.12 (talk)
I say that the fact that you silenced two contributors is a further problem. Relock the page or unlock it; don't leave it so that it's only open for Rand's lovers to edit. 00:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.221.174 (talk)
[edit] User:Art4emI notice that you've full protected the Rat Bastard Protective Association article, possibly because of my Wikiquette_alert. There is, however, one only indiviual edit warring and that involves removing my disputed tags. (As soon as I realised that everything I was doing was going to be reverted I backed right off and filed an alert.) Sure, there is a content dispute at heart, but with only two editors interested in the article and one constructing it almost entirely out of material from his own personal website, I wonder whether there's better solution than simply locking in the problematic material for two weeks? Most of his full articles have already been speedy deleted or are about to be via AFD, however in this case there is some substance to the article which means that it's not eligible for SD/AFD, even though 80% of the content is bogus. I'm happy to wait for two weeks for the article to be unprotected, but unfortunately so will he be, leaving us no further ahead from where we were earlier today. Any advice on where to proceed managing this problematic editor would be appreciated. Debate (talk) 21:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Rat Bastard Protective AssociationThank you for your interest in the article and I appreciate your attention. I appreciate it. I was unaware of the admin requisite for full protection. Since my other pages got deleted despite my request for discussion and review I was looking for some way for meaningful discussion to occur -- rather than simple deletion. Thank you, appreciatively, --Art4em (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Greater Grace World OutreachI'm in the middle of helping the two COI/POV editors work through their problems. One of them will be away from their system when the block comes off. As the blocking admin, can you extent it for at least 1 additional week. Thanks. Tiggerjay (talk) 21:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
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