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[edit] Cleanup!

Hey, good job reverting that featured article for today. We reverted at pretty much the same time heh. --OMouse (talk) 04:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Article of interest

I thought that you'd be interested in the new article, Zengana. Regards, Dogru144 03:45, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

PS: A language list reference. (Actually, I do not believe that it lists all dialects.) [1]. Dogru144 04:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Thought I'd let you know of eidts I made at [2] and Mandeanism before they got censored/ vandalized. Dogru144 08:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of wrestlers who died early age

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[edit] Tarik Aziz is Arab

I have nothing against the fact he can be Assyrian, but he declared recently his the scion of an Arab Chrisian family:

"وكانت بعض الوسائل الاعلامية قد ذكرت اليوم نقلا عن مصادر عراقية مطلعة على محاكمة وزير الخارجية طارق عزيز خلال جلسة لمحاكمته مغلقة اليوم انه "نفى التهم الموجهة اليه حيث وجه له قاضي التحقيق اثني عشر سؤالا أجاب على ستة منها خلال المحاكمة، ورفض الإجابة عن ستة كونها تتضمن إيحاءات طائفية تتعلق بالسنية والشيعة ".

وحسب زعم هذه الوسائل ان " أول التهم التي وجهت له من قبل القاضي كانت بخصوص وجود شريط خاص يبثت انه كان حاضرا خلال اجتماع يطالب بتسيس خطبة الجمعة ومدح الرئيس الاسبق صدام حسين فيها، فجاء رد عزيز انه لا يتذكر حضور هذا الاجتماع خصوصا انه كان وزيرا للخارجية ويقضي معظم وقته خارج البلاد ، إضافة إلى انه " في حال حضوره اعتقد انه "يحق له لاسيما انه من عائلة عراقية عربية مسيحية ويحترم الدين الإسلامي ". "[3] --Katous1978 01:14, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assyrian people

I am a Assyrian by ethnicity and i am a Chaldean catholic, i speak a form of Assyrian called Chaldean neo-Aramaic, many loyal Chaldo-Assyrians say they speak Chaldean and even indify themselfs as Chaldeans rather than Assyrian, please don't dominate your Syriac orthodox fate and your dialect as the whole "Assyrians". Syriacs does not represent the Assyrian nation alone. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, and i am a PROUD Assyrian CHaldean ;)Nochi 15:38, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hello Chaldean, long time since we have talked. Since you are an Iraqi, iwonder if there exist an ethnic group called Sumerians in nowdays iraq?, since on the article "Sumerian people" it has been stated that there are about 500,000 Sumerians in Iraq?? thanks. Balu2000 22:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shlama!

Hey, thnak you very much for the compliments. In my spare time I do a bit of reading and I got into Roman stuff and then Byzantine stuff due to video games!!! (Ahem Rome: Total War). So soon as I find good Assyrian books, I will gladly add to our old Empires! Baseema raba!

Tourskin 16:27, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, without trying to show off, I started the Assyria (Persian province) article, feel free to take a look and improve. I will finish it and I also have to assist with the Byzantine Empire and decentralize that out so I will probably work on the Lebanon assyrian article and hopefullyhave it done in less than a week from today. Also, as a neutral party, I have a favor to ask, please rate my articles however you see fit. Thanks - hope to see you around my fellow Chaldean! Well my mums chaldean and my dad assyrian but who cares right?! Tourskin 00:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Dude... you give me too much praise! Lol! I aint the best - wish I was! Ur welcome! By the way, are you going to the Assyrian Convention in San Diego, Sept 2007?Tourskin 04:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh a shame. Well, I'll see u around wiki!Tourskin 04:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Sparrow is not Canary!

Hello. You cannot paint sparrow and sell it as a canary. Stop your Syriani nationalistic revisionism on wikipedia or I will challenge you with Academic sources leaving you alone with Simo Parpola and Aina! Another thing let's follow wiki rules! Right now i'm busy, i'll be back later after a few hours.Brusk u Trishka 14:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Too bad for you, Simo Parpola (who knows what he's talking about), isn't the only Assyriologist that claims that we are Assyrians. If anyone is into revisionism, then it's you Kurds. How do you go from Mede to Kurd? Right. — EliasAlucard|Talk 02:28 31 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sargon of Akkad

I put in a request for it already but haven't heard anything. They are way backed up, I think. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 15:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/requests#Sargon_of_Akkad --Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 17:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Syriani

That Assyrian showed in the map has nothing to do with Syrianis you are trying to connect with. That was a toponym remembered through ages after evilness of ancient Assyrians. To use a toponum to change a certain ethnic groups history is cheating and discouraged by wikipedia. cheers!

[edit] Simko Shikak

Since you're knowledgeable on Assyrian issues, can you take a look at Simko Shikak and expand it with relevant information? There are no mentions of his massacre of Assyrians, and User:Heja helweda keeps removing the POV tag I added to the article as a result of neutrality concerns expressed by several editors on the article's AfD, which is very disruptive. --Mardavich 05:05, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture for Assyrian People infobox

Shlama aziza,

Please consult the talk page on Wikiproject Assyria, where I proposed to have a vote on who to include in the Assyrian people infobox. As you may already be aware, there is a bit of disagreement between myself and EliasAlucard as to who to include, and he recently changed the picture without consulting anybody. So if you could check out the page and perhaps provide some input as to how we can do this vote (if it is a good idea at all). We need to set some guidelines, because people such as EliasAlucard are making major edits without discussing them in the talk page first.

Thanks. Posh bshena.

Šarukinu 23:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hey fellow Mesopotamian, just checkin out ur page. BTW, if u need me to lend a hand in particular just tell me. I will do my best to get some info and start up the Lebanon assyrian article asap. Tourskin 03:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Sharbel Touma

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[edit] Assyrianidentity.png

[4] The Assyrian empire fell in 612 BC. In 643 BC, it was still badass. Also, you should upload it on Commons. — EliasAlucard|Talk 02:08 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

I have to hand it to you, great image. Keep up the great work, ahuno. — EliasAlucard|Talk 09:15 08 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] August 2007

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[edit] Aramean people

Please get involved. Some child out of nowhere wants to create an ethnicity. The page Aramaean people was always redicected to Aramaeans. All of a sudden this teenager comes and claims these people actually exist. Where anyone with common knowledge of this topic knows its a utterly joke. Chaldean 12:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not getting involved, I don't know anything about the subject. All I'm doing is telling you both to stop. Or you'll both be blocked for a cool-down period, for violating the WP:3RR. That's all. Gscshoyru 12:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

For your information, Chaldean, the page was created today: [5]. It has never been a redirect. But I agree, it should be merged with Aramaeans. However, the image you created is misleading, and erroneous. As I've been trying to point out to you, there has been an awareness of Aramaean heritage among the Syriacs, both West and East. And I have talked with Syriacs in Istanbul, and read interviews with Syriacs who live in the Southeast of Turkey, who acknowledge their Aramaean ancestry. So it's simply not true that the Aramaean identity is a 20th-century invention, nor is it true that no one in the Middle East considers themselves Aramaean. I would love to start with the Syriacs page --I had done so about a year ago, before it was without any proper discussion turned into a redirect to Assyrian people--, but won't do so without discussion, in order to prevent another deletion of the page. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 13:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

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[edit] Image:Assyrianidentity.png

Please upload it on Commons next time. — EliasAlucard|Talk 10:08 12 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wars of Neo-Assyria

Do you know how to change the template box because it currently has Arrapha pointing to an article about the city, when we need to create a new article about an actual battle there. Thanks.Man of Bravery!! 16:36, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Osroene

Please! I am already aware that Syriac/Aramaic was used in Osroene, but why do you remove Pliny's source? Aramaic was even used in the Sassanids kingdom but nobody claims that they were Assyrians! Aramaic was sort of lingua-franca in those days. The etymology is also clear, it comes from name of an Arab tribe. Please don't remove reliable stuff. Definitely Pliny has to be mentioned.Heja Helweda 23:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Please check the sources that I provided. The name derives from Orrhoe (modern: Urfa), the name of an Arab tribe.Heja Helweda 23:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interesting Point

But Pliny identified them as Arabs. They converted to Christianity and used the Aramaic language for their religious ceremonies. I say again, I have nothing against your theory and at the beginning thought that the name may be related to Assyria, but then I found the Pliny's reference. Also please remember that most muslims are not Arabs but use Arabic as a religious language. This is similar to the situation of Osroene.Heja Helweda 23:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey, come one. In fact I included a lot of material about origins of Christianity in Osroene and its Syriac documents and writers. As I said, Syriac/Aramaic was used in that region but there were Arabs around. After all Romans had an Assyrian province around the same time, right? which was further to the east (in Nineveh). Nevertheless, I keep looking for more reliable sources. If I find the name Assyrian as an ethnic designation for population of Osroene, then I will include it. Please remember that I have done the same for Medes. Many Kurds/non-Kurds claim that Medes were Kurds, etc. But I have not found any reliable source on that connection, and you can see that on the Kurds page I added the alternative theory about their origins according to which Kurds are not from Medes.Heja Helweda 23:34, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shlama khouny!

Baseema raba fellow Assyrian. Your own edits deserve credit. I enjoy editting with you and our other Assyrian brothers!

Yes, the way you fixed the template is good, so now we can link it to the Battle of Arrapha rather than the city itself.

By the way, just out of cuiosity, how old are you? I'm 18.

Well, I'll see you around!!Man of Bravery!! 23:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Arrapha

Hey, I'm getting a little different things from what you have about this battle.

This source: Healy, Mark (1991). The Ancient Assyrians. New York: Osprey, p.. 

Claims that it happened in 615 BC and it was the Medians who siezed Arrapha - ? BTW, i know that info at the time is tenuous at best - no doubt both the medians and the babylonians boasted a victory that both wished to see, but perhaps both did not participate?


Maybe we should include both sources in the article?

Man of Bravery!! 02:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


I dont own the article tho. We're a team man! Ok maybe i shouldnt take this too far... ah what the heck we assyrians are few and far between, u dont mind me being all nice do u?! Ok well u kno what, if we cant tell, why dont we just edit the article how we feel - like if we feel a grudge against iranians one day, we'll say the Babylonians did it. If we get a grudge from Assyrians who say they are Neo-Babylonians, we'll say the medians (iranians) did it! I will try to see what other sources have, see if i can get a "source consensus" lol.Man of Bravery!! 03:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Again Osroene

That personality you mentioned is definitely Syriac. But why you are rejecting Roman sources accroding to which the inhabitants were mainly Arabs. After conversion to Christianity they started using Syriac for religious purposes. This is very clear fromthe sources I provided. Also one historical source and author close to the events rules out other modern interpretations. I prefer to stick to Pliny than modern writers, because of the modern POV and nationalism which did not exist back then.Heja Helweda 21:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Akkadians in Ancient Arabia

Hi Chaldean, I was curious about your opinion? Do you feel offended by listing the Akkadians as in the Ancient Arabia page. (the Akkadians only, I clealry mention that the Assyrians are a Mesoptamian evolved culture that dont identify with the Arabs)

  • The Akkadians lived in Arabia before they entered Mesopotamia. (even Elias himself knows that and admited to it)

below are links to neutral non Arab websites. The Akkadians Arabian origin, The Akkadians migration from ArabiaFirst result search for Akkadians

  • The article is related to the ancient Arabs, not modern Arabs.
  • The article mentions the (Akkadians only) as an ancient Arab tribe before entering Mesopotamia, the rest of the Mesopotamian tribes were not considered Arab. That still didnt work well for Elias!
  • you saw the section in the bottom that was aded to clearly erase any confusio about the Mesopotamians identity.

I always had respect for the Mesopotamians and respect their culture, that I never claimed as Arab. I am only mentionning an important part of the history of Ancient Arabia and it well known. Honestly, the AntiArab behavior of EliasAlucrad makes me wonder? Is that how every ChaldoAssyrian is ? (I am not sure how you you want me to address you?) in the Iraqi websites they say ChaldoAssyrians and I thought ChaldoAssyrian is proper beause I saw your edit n the ANcient Arabia page, where you said Chaldean = Assyrian. --Skatewalk 00:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

  • It's not about being anti-Arabic. Perhaps if Arabs wouldn't be killing as many Assyrians as they are killing daily, I would've liked Arabs more. And of course, if Arabs weren't trying to Arabize us. Apart from that, it has nothing to do with this. Akkadians were not Arabs. It's as simple as that. Stop running around on different peoples talk pages and embarrass yourself like this. — EliasAlucard|Talk 04:12 15 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Last time I checked I didnt kill no Assyrians!? In Iraq there is a war and everyone is dying. Assyrians are suffering like e very Iraqi. Its very sad but should not reflect on an Ancient Arabia article! embarrassed why?--Skatewalk 04:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can you talk to Elias?

I think Elias is taking it too serious. It is a well known fact that the roots of the Akkadians were more Southerner then they established their empire centuries later. So no, I don't get offended (and even if I did, what does it matter, facts count on wiki) if Akkad was listen in Ancient Arabia. But lets get this straight - its Ancient Arabia, not Ancient Arabs, right? Is that how every ChaldoAssyrian is ? - No, absolutely not. in the Iraqi websites they say ChaldoAssyrians and I thought ChaldoAssyrian is proper beause I saw your edit n the ANcient Arabia page, where you said Chaldean = Assyria - ChaldoAssyrian is a term used by political parties, not on a encyclopedia. Chaldean just means Catholic. I don't think its important to list the religion of a group. Ethnic group is enough. Chaldean 03:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe he finds it offensive when I keep discussing this with him? can you tell him its ok to list the Akkadians in the Ancient Arabia article. I think he will listen to a fellow Mesopotamian better than, Thanks --Skatewalk 05:02, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shlama/Salam

hi Chaldean, I am from central Iraq (Baghdad). I am currently staying in Australia. My father is Muslim and my mother is Jewish to be more specifying. what about you?. I am very glad to work with you guys on the project and yes Assyrian period is important to Iraq's history. Cheers (:.\ — Balu2000 16:25, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Why are you siding with this Benne dude? So are you an Aramaeanist now as well? — EliasAlucard|Talk 18:01 23 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello again (lol everyone says hello)

The Barnstar of National Merit
I commend your efforts to improve the articles of our peoples. Your work, being both neutral and interesting has done much good. Tourskin 06:55, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


I only really know u and Elias so I gave both of u the star. Let me know of anyone else too, k?

YEAH WELL DONE!!! LETS JOIN ESSARHADDON AND SACK MEMPHIS TOGETHER!! LolTourskin 06:55, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assyrian Democratic Organisation

I need some help expanding it. I take it you know a lot about this party. — EliasAlucard|Talk 18:13 30 Aug, 2007 (UTC)


[edit] re:Shlama

Chaldean, I've restored the page cut, and I'll reiterate my rationale that I put in my edit summary: The link that "supported" various claims in the article was dead, and the claims themselves were not scholarly (no academic linguist claims such connections) or verifiable. Furthermore, although it seems rather obvious about the εἰρήνη/שלמא connection, it needs to be sourced. Lastly talk about Shalom should be in the article on Shalom, not Shlama. אמר Steve Caruso 19:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Let this lighten your day

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Lets appreciate one another's company (online?) as a dark anniversary has come. Assyrians too have dark anniversaries. 3000 is only a village for us. Not hundreds of villages (cough Simele, cough 1915, cough 1988). Tourskin 04:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dab and Benne

Wow they just won't go away... Sharru Kinnu III 17:19, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Aramaic wikipedia

Basima raba / Tawdi sagi qa/le funoyo dilox. I hae some questions concerning the Aramaic wikipedia, is it an active wikipedia and do you write the articles on modern or classical Syriac-Aramaiac? I would be glad to you help in the articles if needed.--Yohanun 07:22, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Alright that sounds pretty good to me. So if I have understood this right I can write in Marbaya/Turoyo with classical Syriac words added into the article?--Yohanun 19:33, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] christianity in pakistan

Hi chaldean , could you tell me why you deleted the following from the article? "The Law of evidence in Pakistan demands the witness of two Chrisitan men for that of one Muslim, the witness of a woman being half that of a man and that of a Christian woman being half again of that article on Pakistan in "a Dictionary of Asian Christianity" Isbn 0-8028-3776-x." i think its a valid point for the article but you deleted it saying it was an unwiki edit... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.39.86 (talk) 23:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi their, you have confused me with someone else.

[edit] Arab

How is stating 100% of Saudi's citizen population Arab an OR statement? Chaldean 14:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Please restore only referenced edits. Wikipedia is about verifiability and not truth. --
No problem. I will reference all of them. Chaldean 15:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Then we'll have no problem at all. Thanks. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by FayssalF (talk • contribs) 15:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Ahmed Radhi

Hello bro, about Ahmed Radhi and the attack, Its a false rumor, some people claimed that it was Ahmad Radhi, in the end it wasn't him, Ahmad Radhi and Hussein Saeed are close friends, and they spotted in a restaurant in Amman eating in the same table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mussav (talk • contribs) 05:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Of Course

Of course all Media and Channel published it, I'll try to find the source, do you really think Ahmed Radhi capable of doing that? Hypocrites everywhere and they can set the fire any time, you cant belive everything you hear and that's what happened, some people claimed its Ahmed Radhi but it wasn’t him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mussav (talk • contribs) 05:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/come-home.htm http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15315&Itemid=128 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.98.178 (talk) 21:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shlomo

Hello, I'm new here, and I would like some help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalito (talk • contribs) 18:13, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iraqi Clubs names.

Hello Chaldean, When I went to Iraq and I visited some clubs such like Al-Karkh, Police …etc, and they are using the English names for the Clubs, such like Police Club, Air Force, Army FC, also I checked the other clubs Name list and they are using Al- definition like Al-Shatra instead of Ash Shatra, Al-Najafa instead of An Najaf…etc also I went to Sulimaniyah to do the same thing and they told me they use X instead of KH… Zaxo. Mussav (talk) 23:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Basra ?

Say Chaldean do you know Basra were belong to whom? Akkad, Sumer, Arab maybe? Many thanks. Mussav (talk) 18:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Shlama lokh, Dakh'iwet? Chaldean I have noticed that you upload some really nice and useful Iraq-related images. The only problem with these images is that they are not uploaded on wikicommons, thus I can not use them on the Arabic wikipedia :( so can you please start uploading these images on wikicommons? especilly the public domain ones. Basima--Aziz1005 (talk) 18:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not that hard to upload images there. It is exactly the same way as you uploaded your images here. The only difference is that you are not allowed to upload unfree images. Anyway, try and if you still find it diffecult, then I'll have to try to upload them myself :(--Aziz1005 (talk) 18:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Greater Iraq ?

Hi Bro, I'm sorry for bothering you, I just have a question just look at this Greater Iran and Greater Syria.. as I remember when I was a little kid I heard about Greater Iraq? something about west part of Iran (Khuzstan maybe?), the East part of Syria and Kuwait were belong to Iraq.. so I'm asking did you heard anything about that? If it true and if is there a strong source we should make the Greater Iraq article/page. Salam bro Merry Christmas and happy new year. Mussav (talk) 07:44, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Osroene

The issue is to provide reliable sources. I am well aware of the fact that Syriac was used as the written language of Christian communities around Edessa and Osroene, and personally think there has to be a etymological connection between Osroene and Assyrians, however unfortunately have not been able to locate any good, academic source on that. The point is if you provide a bad source, it just undermines your argument. This is definitely not a academic source [6] and I am sure there are good peer-reviewed journal papers out there, it just needs a bit of patience :) Happy Christmas! Cejna jidayikbûna Xirîstê ji we pîroz dikim! Heja Helweda (talk) 19:14, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Notable Armenian genocide victims

I have nominated Category:Notable Armenian genocide victims (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for renaming to Category:Armenian Genocide victims (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. LeSnail (talk) 20:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
do you like the changes I done to the arbil page. you should have left it the same as lots of other club pages have it the way I done it and not the compitation name on the top. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mo1993 (talk • contribs) 17:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hello whats up, long time no speak. I know its a bit late but... merry christmas and happy new year! So hows the assyrian articles goin? I'm busy right now with uni unfortunately but if you need something specific and small I can help.Tourskin (talk) 07:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

That does with the guidlines as many other clubs do it the way I do.If you don't believe me check Valancias or Sevilla page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mo1993 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Arbil FC

Hello Bro, I took a look at Arbil page's History and I think you are right, it was improper and your last revision is better, I just sent a message to Mo and I hope everything be fine. Mussav (talk) 23:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ancient Assyria Template

Sounds great. I'll get to it. Tourskin (talk) 19:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

It will take time for me to create a public doman version and also to list the provinces. Then we need to find some good info on the provinces themselves. Tourskin (talk) 19:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Excellent. I've finished the template, here it is:

{{Assyrian provinces}}

We just need articles for them lol

K then, when you do the map, that could go on the template. Tourskin (talk) 22:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Side note: This template rightfully overestimates the extent of our great empire, with so many "provinces"!!Tourskin (talk) 22:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assyriska Föreningen

I've seen that you've edited this articlte previously, so I think you'll find this interesting. User Johan Elisson has deleted this section [7], saying in comment "Youth tournaments are not notable enough to be included".
I disagree with him. Gothia Cup, is a big event (World Cup for clubs, category U11), and winning the cup is a big success.
Fact that the winner is an immigrant squad, possibly the best success that any Assyrian football squad ever had (am I wrong?), gives the "weight" to this case.
So, I believe this should stay on that page, and I believe that that success should have a place on the WikiProject Assyria. What do you think?
Here's more: [8]. In Swedish: [9]
Greetings, Kamarad Walter (talk) 13:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Syriacs

Hi, I was checking for vandalism, and I noticed there seems to be a minor disagreement over this article. Why do you think it should be redirected to Syriac (disambiguation) ? That article has Syriacs as one of it's entries? I wasn't able to sort out how this should be. Greswik (talk) 20:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

You have replied to this on my talkpage, but basically just said the answer is we can't take the other side in the dispute seriously. This answer doesn't explain much! Could you explain where you think the information you revert out are to be found in Wikipedia now, and why you don't want an article about Syriacs? Greswik (talk) 14:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
You keep on saying we can't take the user seriosuly. Even if you provide an example of an edit summary with a wrong assumption, I don't see this answer as a good reply. The arguments must be shown to be wrong each and every one - I don't think the way you dismiss them becaue they come from a given user is according to policy. You have also made an issue out of me using the word "you", and then said I gently accuse you of dictatorship. Please assume some good faith here. I get the impression this is a bigger content dispute than I thought. You inform me that "WE, the experts on the issue, [...] have come to a conclusion... " Could you please show me a link to this conclusion? Greswik (talk) 18:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Please do not speak in behalf of me: I have never said that the Syriacs are not an ethnic group. Actually, I believe there are many reasons to state that the Syriacs do constitute a separate ethnic group, within which the issue of heritage is hotly disputed. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 19:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Syriac is not an ethnic group. It's the name of an Aramaic dialect, spoken by Assyrians (who have historically also been known as Syrians). Hence, Syriacs are Assyrians. Now, there are some Assyrians, who disagree with this and claim to be Aramaeans and that Syriac means Aramaean (it does not) based on a vague and inaccurate mistranslation of the Bible's Aram into Syria, but the ethnic group is Assyrian. Period. — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 20:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please Help

Hello Chaldean. Please help if you can [10] LoveMonkey (talk) 01:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey Chaldean the editor is not listening to reason and the article may need to got to arbitration because the editor refuses to acknowledge that the Armenian artocities and the Assyrian atrocities and then the Greek atrocities were not done by Muslims since the Young Turks where secular Muslims. LoveMonkey (talk) 16:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Chaldean what are you doing the Syriacs are Assyrian also! therefore we must edit in Western Syriacs Assyrian-Syriacs also Im an Syriac but Im calling myself for Assyrian! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.16.211.77 (talk) 18:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hello Chaldean!

I am interested in having a personal discussion with you. You are Chaldean and I am a Maronite. As far as I am concerned, I have never had the chance to speak with somebody who has your profile: -Chaldean -Supports the independence of both Kurds and Assyrians -Speaks KURDISH....

please contact me on youssefaoun@hotmail.com

[edit] Persian Gulf Cup of Nations

Who moved this page? This is not the correct name of the tournament. I have put a request to admins to move it back. Chaldean (talk) 15:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I tried so hard to get it back, but I couldn't. the person who made all the mess is User:Shahin.shn. Mussav (talk) 01:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] David Perley

Hey, could you help out with expanding the article, David B. Perley? — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 12:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Iraq

WikiProject Iraq needs you!

[edit] Hello

I hope all is well. God Bless you. LoveMonkey (talk) 14:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
May God Protect you and keep you safe, may the Most Holy Mary watch over you always. I am glad to hear you are well. You are in my prays. I pray that you and your loved ones are OK in this time of war. Pray for me a sinner. LoveMonkey (talk) 15:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elias

Hey man. Yeh I know hes banned, but I was hoping that his IP address might not be and so send a comment there. Thanks though. Take care Khouny.

Tourskin (talk) 06:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sockpuppetree

How did you suspect me of sockpuppetree. I am going to place a complaint against you for that completely untrue and insulting waste of my time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nabuchadnessar (talk • contribs) 22:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect

Please don't redirect an article's content unless it has been agreed to on the discussion page. PseudoOne 00:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I didn't see any content on the article discussion page, but thanks :-). PseudoOne 00:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} template.
See my talk page again, I am not sure what to do as per this discussion. --PseudoOne 00:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] syriac people

What about, naming the article "Syriac/Aramaic people" VegardNorman (talk) 00:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Making a new article, "Syriac/Aramaic people" instead of "Syriac people". The article is about those syriacs (suryoye oromoye) whose origin is aramaic. What do you think? VegardNorman (talk) 00:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
But Western Syriacs may also refer to Western assyrians. The western assyrians does not think that their origin is aramaic VegardNorman (talk) 00:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
It does not have to redirect to either assyrian or syriacaramaic. where do you live? VegardNorman (talk) 00:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I edited them after the swedish wikipedia. Two of them were not sourced. Anyway. Check the article Syriac-Aramean people . its the same text i used before. VegardNorman (talk) 01:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I know,if you have time do you think you can help me build up the article with religion and language? And their will be a good collaboration between us. VegardNorman (talk) 01:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I think a board like that would be perfect for cooperation between both groups.! VegardNorman (talk) 13:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elias gone

Shlama

Hey man. Now that Elias is gone, the burden falls on us to maintain the articles he worked hard at maintaining. I see you've already started on Osroene. Well if you need me....

Poush bshana Khouny

Tourskin (talk) 01:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Soccer players

Why do revert my edit from Syriac-Aramean to Syriac? You know Syriac redirects to Assyrian. And when there are a Syriac-Aramean article, they should be redirected to that article, cause you know they identify as Syriac-Arameans, and not Syriac-Assyrians. I won't edit it again, but you know i'm correct. Anyway, great job creating the board, I will join the debate later. The TriZ (talk) 12:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Syriac-aramean

should the article be named Syriac-Aramaean or Syriac-Aramean ? VegardNorman (talk) 23:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, what do i have to inform? VegardNorman (talk) 23:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, i think that this cooperation board is really a good idea and there will be better cooperation between us, especially between me and you. But about this article, i have alreade an article. Check history in Syriac-Aramaean people. But user Dab keeps removing it. VegardNorman (talk) 00:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes i will from now on. thanks alot VegardNorman (talk) 00:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I haven't made any edits on the article. I guess your reacting on what I wrote on the discussionpage, but seriously, don't be like Elias, he said that all Syriacs are Assyrians, and that it is a fact, and that he is calling a spade a spade or something like that. And now your doing it again, you know that it is a theory from Frye(?) that Syriac (Suryoyo, Suryoye etc) dervies from Assyrian. And it is ridicolous of you to bring up Herodotus as an argument, when Strabos(?) quoted someone that said that those who the Greeks called Syrians, called themselfs Arameans. So yes, it is still a theory, not a fact. And it is far from supported by the influental academics, like Brock. The TriZ (talk) 00:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I said Elias, are you Elias? And i personally hasn't supported any moves. The TriZ (talk) 01:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Osroene

This article is busted, people are screwing with it and saying that we re not the first Christian state and furthermoore, they seem to have the references. Let me know what your plans are. Lol thanks for backing me up at Bahira article. The damned Assyrian heretic, lol! Tourskin (talk) 05:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Its boiling down to ugly ethnic rivalry thats prevalent in the Caucasus lol. Third party is what we need. So at what time will this party start (lame joke).Tourskin (talk) 05:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assyrian DNA 2

Hey Chaldean, thanks bro for your replies. I thought it might be a good idea to start a similar section on your page to save you the trouble from finding mine out and going to there. I was thinking I put my replies here and you put your on my page for easy access, but if it's a waste of space, please feel free to delete this and I'll start replying on my area's section.

As for the arguement, I do agree that for all intents and purposes - especially in light that there's no such thing as 'pure race' especially in the mid-east, I will agree that it is fair to call Assyrians Bon Fide decendants of the Ancient Mesopotamians. However, considering there is no such thing as a 'pure race' and my DNA results, I believe it is also justified to recognise some Iraqi Arabs as arabised, islamised decendants of the aramaic speaking indiginous peoples. This is especially true in the Levant and Iraq - you can see the section here on wikipedia on 'Arabisation'. Furthermore, you understand that ethnicity has nothing to do with geneology (one of the first mistakes I did here), but is rather self-determining.

I understand I started 'being Mesopotamian' slightly more so after my unexpected DNA results, but you must understand that Iraqi Arab culture (and even language dialect) has always been distinct from other Arab cultures and dialects. We are equally proud of out Mesopotamian heritage (you know the Iraq National Football - or Soccer, team is called 'Lions Of Babylon') and even celebrate festivals like Return of Tamuz (and another thing which's origin I don't quite know called 'Zarda ou Haleeb' I think). So I think it is more than waranted that it is recognised that Assyrians are not the only geneological or even ethnic decendants of the Mesopotamians, though they are the decendants of which ethnically and culturally, or Bon Fide - But so are a lot of Iraqi Arabs minus the language.

My proposal for a compromise is that the 'only' and 'sole' phrases that (in my opinion) wrongly imply they are the only geneological or ethnic (in terms of cultural) decendants of the Mesopotamians be removed - unless you want to argue I don't exist, and what I said is a figment of my imagination :D . However, it is more than fine by me that you mention they are the Only people to continue using the language. Also I understand you name now, I wont fear a supremacist from now on :D And thanks for your work against PoV's, I and many Wikipedia users appreciate it.

Thanks for your time man, and take care. Nabuchadnessar (talk) 16:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Chaldean

I hope all finds you well. It is the season of Forgiveness. Forgive me my sins. For I most definitely have forgiven all committed against me. Pray for me, as I pray for you. God Bless you! Happy Lent. LoveMonkey (talk) 18:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Islamic contributions to Medieval Europe.

You are correct in informing me of this. However, as you may have noticed, I am on wikibreak and am in no position to do any editting. Sorry.

I promise to be fully back after March 22, the last of my UCSD exams. For now, let me know what needs some fixing.

The thing is, how can Islam make any contribution to Europe? Yes, europeans were ignorant compared to Arabs but thats because the Arabs inherited a 1000 years of Greek and Roman Science and Engineering as well as philosophy.

Assyrians contributed to Europe? I don't know about this. I agree that many Islamic achievements were in fact Assyrian, but of course why would any one even give a shit about us Assyrians, a minority when there are millions of other people screaming political correctness. Alas my friend, the vanquishers write history, but that does not mean the vanquished cannot revise it.

Anyways, what I am 100% confident of, and sure of prooving is that Byzantium contributed to European knowledge.

Hell if Islamic contributions to Medieval Europe did occur, they were crap because the Byzantine Empire was the most advanced state on the Planet until the Ottomans took it and Europe remained less advanced for years to come.

I'll get back to this later. For now, keep me informed.

Poush bshena

Tourskin (talk) 05:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Rubbish, anti-Islamic disrespectfull garbage. The Muslims also inherited science of the ancient Mesopotamians and Egyptions and their other ancestors. You cannot deny the great advances in science and mathematics and algebra, as well as medicine in Iraq. The Ottomans were the decendants of the Byzantines, so theres no difference who made the discoveries, it's still the now called Turks. You have a clear anti-arab, anti-Islam biased thats not welcome on a neutral place like wikipedia. I'll revise any edits you make as soon as I get time with all my uni preparations now (my course starts quite earley in 1 Sept), but I also trust Chaldean's unbiased judgement on that, and hope your proposed edits wont take effect. Nabuchadnessar (talk) 17:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assyrian DNA 4

"There isn't pure ethnicities or race in the whole world, not just the Middle East. Thats just how it is, all of mankind has lived in one earth since the beginning. I will agree that it is fair to call Assyrians Bon Fide decendants of the Ancient Mesopotamians. However, considering there is no such thing as a pure race and my DNA results, I believe it is also justified to recognise some Iraqi Arabs as arabised, Nabu, this is accepted among historians and Iraqis themselves. I don't know if you understand Arabic, but if you ever watch a Iraqi tv channel, you will see how sometimes they show how patriotic they are of Al Rafidain (Bet-Nahrain) and many politicians advocate Iraqism over Arabism in terms of them being Mesopotamian descent and different from other Arabs."

I totally agree with you there bro. :)


"But that self-determination is largerly based on what language that group speaks. Which I think is a fear thing to do. No? If your grandfater was born in Greece, your father was born in Greece, and you were born in Greece and only spoke Greek, wouldn't it be justifable to call yourself Greek, even thou you don't know your DNA make up beyond your grandfathers?"

Very true, ethnicity is determined largely - sometimes almost entirely on language - it plays a very big role. I should have read the ethnicities section before coming in all guns blazing :D . I mean look at places like Sudan - geneologically, I'm sure most people are almost entirely black, but call themselves Arabs and are even passionately upset if it is questioned - the reason is language. Somaliee are geneologically closer to Arabs (National geographics again ;) ) yet don't call themselves arabs. Language is very important in ethnicity just like you say bro. :)


"Azizi (dont know if you know what that means) I know this lol I was born in Iraq and lived there for quite a few years :D We are equally proud of out Mesopotamian heritage (you know the Iraq National Football - or Soccer, team is called Lions Of Babylon) One close couzin of mine represented the Lions in the 86 world Cup ;) "

Hahaha a true Iraqi, yeah I know what it means akhi, I also was born in Iraq and came to the UK in 98 when I was like nine, but I still remember a lot of Iraq. Send all my regards to your cousin, that team gave us so much pride - we won one of the most highly paid, best trained and spoiled teams, while our country was in such crisis, man wish you was with us when we were celebrating out win. :) BTW never knew it was also called Lions Of Babylon before too.


"I agree with this, and I am looking at the page and I can't seem to find anywhere stating this? Can you please point it out for me."

Thanks Chaldean, I appreciate it. I think that sectio was there last time I checked, I think it must have been changed by then already. I guess this dispute has been resolved then. Thanks for all the co-operation and help, I appreciate it. BTW, I said it has been resolved in the discussion section, as I think it pretty much has been. I also renumbered the sections in order of them being posted, incase anyone wants to know how it got resolved, hope you don't mind man. If you don't like anything, feel free to change it back. :)


"That is what I've done for 2 years now. I do this so that people continue to take Wikipedia seriously. I do hope you become an active member here (if you feel like it.) It is a great way of learning about your heratige."

Thats a great thing to do. And I'd be honoured to be part of Wikipedia's active members. Now this has been solved, I'm going to try sorting out the errors I see in the List of gangs in Grand Theft Auto series and the Iraqi people section. Hope you all the best bro and thanks for everything. :) Nabuchadnessar (talk) 17:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Official logos

Hello bro, just brought Arbil's and Peris' official logos, but I don't know how to upload the, could you do it? Thanks in advance.

  • Arbil official logo here
  • Peris official logo here

[edit] Archbishop Rahho

Hello Chaldean. I am a Catholic hermit brother and I'm praying for the Chaldean Church, all the Christians and peoples of Iraq. Thanks for your contributions on Wikipedia. May the bishop and Iraqi martyrs know God's rest. They bless us all, as does the fidelity to Christ of you and your community. As a Christian and a Catholic my heart is with you all. Peace Jc3schmi (talk)

And thank you for teaching me a new word "Shlama". I shall keep it in my vocabulary and heart. Jc3schmi (talk)

[edit] Using sources

You say we shouldn't have an article at a title which generates "only 300 google hits". Good! I agree! Syrian Nestorians should redirect to Assyrian people. Now, you will agree, a title that generates even less google hits, such as Syriac-Aramean people about 100 should also redirect to Assyrian people. Enough with the pov forks. We will keep this article at a single title, and list all names we can reasonably attribute to external sources as synonyms. dab (𒁳) 08:53, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Chaldean: read my lips: CITE. YOUR. SOURCES. You are revert-warring without providing a shred of evidence. This falls under WP:DISRUPT. Discuss the identity of Assyrians/Syriacs in Sweden in the Assyrians/Syriacs in Sweden article, citing your sources. dab (𒁳) 14:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Your behaviour is simply obstructing progress in the encyclopedic coverage of a topic you do seem to care about. The topic is difficult enough without your childish disruption. You are acheiving nothing except annoying people and wasting your own time and that of others. If you want to have any impact at all, learn to understand and implement Wikipedia policies and guidelines. dab (𒁳) 16:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Paulus Rahho

I wish, I dont have the time :), and you guys seem to be doing a great job.

I am sure though that Aram33 is more than happy to help. He created and edited the arabic version.

--Lord Anubis (talk) 11:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Our bishop is slain

May he rest in peace. I would also like to thank whoever it was who managed to get a picture and the news item at the top. At last, the ignorant liberalists in the west will realize that there ARE CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST, of the same caliber as those who were persecuted by the Romans. Tourskin (talk) 23:04, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] To you and my brothers of the East

My prayers got to you in your time of loss, in the murder of your Bishop who was a good and kind man. To my friend Chaldean. God Bless you. Alex. LoveMonkey (talk) 19:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] March 2008

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Arab: You may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. ArcAngel (talk) 02:40, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two articles

There should be two articles about two groups. Syriac people and Assyrian people. Syriac-aramean people refer to Syriac people. And im not happy about the proposal about creating a new article with title Assyrian/Syriac people. VegardNorman (talk) 11:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

I noticed your userpage edit - glad to see you're back! AndrewRT(Talk) 23:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Paulos Faraj Rahho

Shlama khon, glad I could do it. --334 (talk) 02:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Salaam/Shlama

Hey bro, thanks very much for explaiing that to me, now I know why my name's red not blue. I'll try editting it now. Thanks for your time explaining that to me and your kind offer to help, appreciate it akhi. Take care. Nabuchadnessar (talk) 16:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha great mind think alike eh bro. :D Nabuchadnessar (talk) 19:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks akhon for putting that awsome picture of Nabuchadnessar II on my page, I love it! :) Thank you very much Chaldean, I really appreciate it. :) Nabuchadnessar (talk) 20:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flagicons

Hi. Please don't insert flags into infoboxes. They are discouraged for good reasons by WP:MOSFLAG. Rettetast (talk) 22:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Thanks Chaldean. Now you mention it, I wouldn't mind you help here: Talk:Ali_al-Shemari#Third_Opinion if you can spare a moment! AndrewRT(Talk) 23:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Iraqi minorities page

There is some talk of merging Iraqi minorities into Minority politics in Iraq. What do you think? I don't mind so long as the overall information is preserved (i.e demographic data and current politics). Obviously Iraqi minorities deserve an entry devoted to them, but I think the heading 'minority politics' is kind of narrow given the long history of the Assyrians, Mandeans and other peoples who are now minorities in Iraq.

Seth J. Frantzman (talk) 13:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unity

3000 Christians of the Assyrian Church of the East have with 16 Deacons, 4 priests and 1 Bishop entered inoto Full Communion with the Chaldean Catholic Church. Woow!Tourskin (talk) 03:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, because they claim to be an Apostolic Church, they give themselves the title, "Holy Apostolic Catholic Assyrian Church of the East". Tourskin (talk) 18:21, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh wait, do u mean u want the Chaldean Church to change its name? How about Chaldo-Assyrian Cartholic Church? Tourskin (talk) 14:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The last thing we need is a leader who leads poorly with division in mind. Tourskin (talk) 16:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions

I briefly read all the comments regarding how many articles are needed for all these petty small Assyrian groups and my head is going to explode. So whats up, its basically just the Arameanist trolls at it again?Tourskin (talk) 16:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I know from Elias tireless battles what Dab's agenda is; trolling from one Assyrian article to another. Tourskin (talk) 16:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

He's an admin right? How did he ever become one. Tourskin (talk) 02:13, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the assistance in Osroene. What exactly did you want me to do though for the naming conventions thing? Tourskin (talk) 02:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I've added it to my watch page. At the moment you seem to being holding them. Tourskin (talk) 02:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assyria under the Persian Empire

If you can, keep an eye on this for the next three hours, I will be out. I know you might not be able to do this because it might night were you are (were are you anyways) cos I'm gonna go out to Church and be back a little later than normal. Thanks khouny, Tourskin (talk) 18:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dab

This guy is seriously beginning to piss me off. Gees, I never though he was this much of an ass hole, constantly changing shit without discussion. We gotta report him. Tourskin (talk) 13:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Agree. VegardNorman (talk) 23:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whats up with the titles

The title Syriac people were much better than West syriacs. What do you think? VegardNorman (talk) 23:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)