Talk:Chauncey Bailey

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[edit] Murder/Terrorism/Your Black Muslim Bakery

The article should also emphasize that he may be a terrorist victim, or at least a victim of a "hit" as events at [Your Black Muslim Bakery seem to starting in that direction. While innocence should always be presume until proven guilty, I believe this is starting to develop into a major story considering other raids and arrests as well as this was an ongoing investigation. --Hourick 13:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] journalist assassinations

I found this section irrelevant to our topic here since it has nothing related to Bailey. And I deleted it. Chris! my talk 01:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello Chris, I think rather that some restoration of that detail is in order. To say it has "nothing" related to Bailey, well, I would contend that it does, notably because it explained in brief context that Bailey is the first journalist to be killed in a specifically targetted attack within the United States since 1993! I would like some other input on this, rather than just a wholesale deletion. Further, I think it's a worthy article bit, but not quite enough material for an entire article by itself. So the Bailey article seemed the most logical place for it. Any additional opinions appreciated.Steven Russell 23:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Steven. This article is the current poster-child for journalist assassinations in the United States due to the fact that they are so rare. I say put this information back up. When journalists don't feel safe investigating their stories it can severely impact their ability to be effective journalists. This is clearly a case of an organized criminal/terrorist organization using violence to both retaliate and stave off investigation of their own violent and criminal activities.Dperrine 23:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
That being said, then here again below is the detail that was deleted, for easier future review/copying/editing: Steven Russell 04:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Bailey's killing placed him among a very exclusive group of peers, journalists who were killed in the line of duty while working in the United States, especially very few in recent years. According to statistics from the Committee to Protect Journalists, the last targeted assassination of a journalist in the United States occurred back in 1993. In that case, a Miami, Florida radio reporter of Haitian heritage, Dona St. Plite, was gunned down while at a benefit for a colleague, Fritz Dor, who had been killed two years earlier. Dor's death had been the third in a wave of assassinations of Haitian-born journalists killed in Miami within that three year period between 1989 and 1991. Those killings were all associated with the coup that ousted Haitian president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. In more recent years, though not direct assassinations, two journalists were killed in the United States 2001. The first was a World Trade Center victim, William Biggart, who was a freelance photographer, followed by Robert Stevens, a photo editor who died in the subsequent anthrax mailing attack in Florida. Before the 1993 final Miami killing, the CPJ recorded only 12 journalists killed in the United States between then and 1976. All but one were immigrant journalists who worked in languages other than English, and received little national media attention. Prior to that, one of the most notorious cases in recent history was the likely Mafia car bombing of Arizona Republic reporter Don Bolles in 1976. [1]

Alright. If you guys think that it should remain in the article, we can work it out. Perhaps you can shorten the paragraph a bit. Chris! my talk 00:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Birth/Degree Earned

Did he really earn an associate degree at age 17? That seems highly unlikely to me. The dates are probably wrong.

My math says he turned 17 in 1966. So then a two-year degree by age 19, in 1968. Steven Russell 06:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Today's chron story

In today's SF Chronicle, a profile of Bailey - here. It would be nice to see more details in the article about his overall life and career, not just how it relates to his assassination and the YBMB. He is a notable journalist in his own right. Perhaps this article can help. Wikidemo 09:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)