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== Vatsa/Taksac/Chahaman/Chauhan- edits ==

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[edit] COFI ANAND CHAUHAN RULES

“The Chauhans or Chahamana are a clan who ruled parts of northern India in the Middle Ages. The Chauhan gotra is found among the Jats, Rajputs, and Gujars.”


Revision as of 01:49, 8 May 2006 by ImpuMozhi (Talk | contribs)

“ The Chauhans or Chahamana are a Rajput clan who ruled parts of northern India in the Middle Ages.”


Dear Impuhozhi.

The previous version is more neutral.

The Chauhan are indeed found in all three groups, the Jats, the Gujars and the rajputs. The Rajput identity is late identity is nowhere found before 12t-13thh century AD, though much effort is made to connect it to an ancient time line. Then too ,a very cursory research will show, it only comes into some notice, with the Islamic invasions on 14th/15th century, and is glorified by the British colonialists, starting with their agent James Todd, who wrote a book’ Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan”

The Jats, the Gujars are a much older people, and there is plenty of evidence that the Rajput feudal class arose from a variety of sources- local Bhils, Gonds, Gujars, Jats, etc.

The essential difference was that the Rajput class was monarchial/feudal in nature, supported by the ‘church’- the priests; much feudalism arose and took hold, as it in, in medieval Europe.


There has been plenty of discussion o this in the Yahoo Jathistory group, which I suggest you visit and join.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/

All are welcome to join. The archives are public, the files section requires membership.

You should also look for and read Joon's book- History of the Jats- which is on line, in the files section

It has chapter of the Rajput and the their origins, which will give you a bit of an insight.

You may find it educative to search the archives, The Chauhan/Chahman/Vatsa connection has been discussed in some detail

See for example :

Vatsa Jats- Chauhan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/message/2923


Agnivansh:

I am deleting the portion below:

“The Agnivanshis were said to have been created by the Gods from a sacrificial fire in order to protect righteousness on earth.”

This is a another self serving legend. The evidence, see Joon, Dahiya, etc, points to the cause as the revival of the noveau Hinduism, and its four fold caste system. There were plenty of clashes between those who chose to follow the noveau Hindu religion, and those who followed Buddhism, Jainism or Vedicism, in contrast to the ritual dominated religion Hinduism was to become. The noveau hindu religion supported and was supported by Monarchism, and Feudalism, while the others were supported by Republican democratic societies.


I would be hesitant before making such sweeping statements like “”the agnivanshis were created Gods from a sacrificial fire in order to protect righteousness on earth.””


I am reverting the edits reversion made by you.

Please discuss this in some detail before you making these kind of reverts


Ravi Chaudhary 01:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Dhangar


Dhangar are a clan of jats. They are not a separate ethnic group.

They are also found in the Gujars. They may be found in the rajputs as well.

Tara's edit can stand.

Ravi Chaudhary 19:55, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Chavan - Chauhan

Hi I believe both mean same thing. Any ideas??--Darrendeng 06:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Agnivansha

There is a discussion going on about origin of Agnivansha on Talk page of Agnivansha. May like to see if someting comes out.

Talk:Agnivansha

--burdak 08:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)