Talk:Chassis Plans

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This is an interesting conundrum. The article on Chassis Plans was intended to be as informative as possible without being written as an ad. This is a work in process as the history of Chassis Plans goes back directly to 1985 with the founding of Industrial Computer Source. ICS was an important part of the early industrial computer market. Even though the brand Industrial Computer Source has been defunct since 1999, it is a very popular search term with over 23,000 pages returned from Google of people capitalizing on that company name.

Unfortunately, poor management and a falling market caused the company to implode and eventually be purchased by Kontron. Articles on that history are forthcoming.

In reviewing articles in 'category:technological company stubs' (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Technological_company_stubs), most of these could be construed as spam. For example, see ANSYS,_Inc., AOpen, Anacomp, AU Optronics, etc. See the history for Core Sound LLC. Len Moskowitz is about the only editor contributing to the article and he founded the company. He's fencing with Evb-wiki for acceptible content.

Even an article as simple as Advanced Electronics Company Limited could be construed as spam given the only content is an external link to their web site. Is a content rich page more spammy than a short, contentless page with a link for Google to index?

While I would fully agree with the anti-spamming policy of not promoting your own company or person, most of the company-centric content on Wikipedia is most likely generated by people connected to that company. You will find the most informative and complete information, at least in the beginning, will come from the company. You may find some historical information from outside people for older and historically important companies such as HP, IBM, Analog Devices, etc.

Chassis Plans is an established company with rich content, including White Papers and industry reference material, and history dating back to the very early days of industrial computing. In as much as an outside view and editing of the appropriateness of the material presented in Chassis Plans is welcome, I would dispute the assertion that this page is spam and a candidate for Speedy Deletion.

Under WP:CORP, a company is a candidate for an article if "a company is notable if it has been the subject of secondary sources". Chassis Plans has been honored by both the Inc 500 in position 151 and twice by the San Diego Business Journal in their Fast 100 list, once in the top 10. Several articles have been written about or citing Chassis Plans including http://www.emsnow.com/npps/story.cfm?id=27228.

Unfortunately, I am going on vacation until August 1 so there will be some delay in ongoing responses to this discussion.

Chassisplans 22:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

What everyone else is doing is not a good defense as to why what you are doing is right. Everything in google has to be verifiable from primary sources, not just the awards a company has won. That means no using of the company's own website as sources. If you can add some primary sources for the rest of the info in the article, that would be plenty. You should read up on Neutral point of view as well. I'll remove the speedy delete since you will be gone, but I hope you intend to follow wiki policies and clean this up. pw 14:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)