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[edit] Birth date

Need a source for her birth date. IMDB gives 1941 in her bio, and adds she claims to be years younger. See [imdb.com/name/nm0004819/], and [imdb.com/name/nm0004819/bio].--Erri4a 23:48, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If she was born in 1951, and married Xavier Cugat when she was 15, this would be out of line in Span the early 60's how? Lowellt 02:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC) 02:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

A US court adjudicated this issue and found her legal birth date to be 1951. The disputed year is 1941. A judge would not have changed this date based on a particularly bouncy cuchi-cuchi. She must have offered presuasive proof. At any rate, if her birth date is legally recognized as 1951, that ought to be the date used here. Laszlo Panaflex 21:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
It would have been easy to provide conclusive evidence of her birth date, especially through medical and dental records. A judge ruled her birth date was in 1951. IMDb retains the 1941 date on their front page, but explains the court ruling on her bio page. Please stop reverting this to the 1941 date unless you have a very good reason, which you explain here. Laszlo Panaflex 03:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I realize "my father" does not qualify as a citable source, but my dad is older than Charo (no matter which birthdate you use) and says that she was, in fact, in her teens when she married Cugat. He distinctly remembers that it was a scandal at the time that Cugat was marrying such a young girl. So this suggests that if we look in older archives of newspapers and the like, we might well find backup of this point. (I do, incidentally, agree no matter what, we should use the date that the court decided, while still noting the debate.) By the way, I wonder how far back the "1941" notation goes... is it possible that at the time she married Cugat, someone might have been pressured to change it for OLDER? Lawikitejana 21:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but you are only half-right. The adjudication came during the process of her naturalization, and the remarks of the judge at the time made it rather plain that he thought that he was harmlessly humoring her. The actual paperwork from her place of birth stated that she was born in 1941. —SlamDiego 16:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:18, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I was born in 1944 sometime around 1966 67 while in lake tahoe, i took charo's younger sister to see the show, we were just kind of hangin out together, she was a couple of years younger than I, but charo seemed to my age or maybe a year or 2 older, can't remember her name but she was a really pleasant and very funny, we used to sit and make fun of some of the members of the band,,, I worked in another band at harrah's it wa fun,, but if she says she was born in 1951,, than that's ok, it makes her feel good —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.238.107 (talk) 04:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cuchi Cuchi

I use this all the time in my own speech, but honestly, does this even have a meaning, or is it something Charo simply made up? Mike H. That's hot 08:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, never mind, I found it: Her trademark "cuchi, cuchi" comes from her nickname for her dog, Cuchillo (Spanish for "knife"): "When Cuchillo (kü'chē'yō) was happy he wiggled. I copied him and I used to say 'como Cuchi, como Cuchi'. Everybody thought that it was very cute when I wiggled and say cuchi-cuchi, and they give me cookies and candy. Now, every time I say cuchi-cuchi, people give me money." Mike H. That's hot 08:17, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Yep, extremely popular, to the extent that, in the Spanish translation of The Flinstones (probably the best dubbing job ever in the history of Mexican audio dubbing of T.V. series; MUCH funnier than the original), Betty constantly refers to Barney Rubble as "Cuchi-Cuchi"...Demf 19:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Retarded?

This isn't me being 'funny', but I just saw this lady on a telivision commercial, and is she retarded? She just seemed very strange on the commercial. Thank you.4.224.225.207 02:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

No. However, since she was popular in the '70s, I wouldn't rule out effects of alcohol or drug use (just my observation). Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 02:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
She speaks very quickly and, I think, slips in and out of Spanish—"Spanglish" or whatever; I dunno. A lot of it's just her "persona," too, I think. -Dan 02:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Another part of her speech is her lisp, which many Spaniards have (at least in my experience). That doesn't make her retarded...simply Spanish. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 03:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
It's not so much a lisp, it's just the way they speak Spanish in Spain. It's a localized dialect. Shostie
That's Castillian Spanish. Its pronounced quite different from the Spanish dialects of the Americas. If you really don't know something or attribute things like this to "being retarded", "your experience" or "just being spanish", or figured Spanish was spoken identically without variation around the planet, please keep such comments to yourself. Ignorant comments such as these keep Wikipedia a laughingstock and far from being known as any kind of repudiable "encyclopedia."
Well, that's not completely true. The castilian lisp is limited to the c-z sound which is different from the s sound. In the Americas there's no difference between pronouncing c or s while in castilian spanish c/z is pronounced like th in "think" and s is pronounced s like in "serbocroatian". So it's not a lisp. But Charo is from Murcia in southern Spain where to some extent the z/c is also pronounced s like in the Americas.

Yes, I am from Spain, and I speak like that.

It's important also to remember that part of her "shtick," or gimmick, is to create the image of a sexy woman who's not that bright (as the stereotype of attractive women tends to go, especially buxom women). The switching back and forth from Spanish is something that native speakers living in the U.S. do often do, but she also exaggerates it for comic effect and speeds it up ... after all, it worked for Desi Arnaz from the early days of television. The seeming "lisp," as mentioned, is characteristic of a regional dialect, and it's called ceceo or seseo in Spanish. If anything, I'd say she's a pretty shrewd woman in some ways, even if she has made a career out of seeming ditzy and oversexed. Lawikitejana 20:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I remember her from the many appearances on the tonight show. She always played this good-looking woman who was not very bright. Looking back on it, this had to be a schtick, an acted bit, correct? No one is that ditzy. Can anyone confirm that the dumb blond thing was an act?

[edit] Geico Commercial

She was on a Geico Commercial, right? I could've sworn she did. --66.218.17.130 02:30, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Still Hot

She's still hot. If she is 55, she looks great for her age. If she is 65, she looks spectacular for her age.

[edit] No reason for "Yuck"

I simply deleted the entry of "yuck" that someone had inserted after the part of the article referring to her spokeswomanship for KY.

[edit] Need for Objectivity

Comments like "she is incredibly old" and "many wish she had not (become a naturalized US citizen)" detract from the objectivity and professionalism of this article.

I've also taken the liberty of removing the paragraph that claimed she had 12 children at once and eventually married on of her own sons... :-/ --Insley 15:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I also took out the line about her being known as "walking viagra". Stu21202 02:44, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clean-up

I deleted a random sentence fragment about an "unknown son." It was unintelligent and possibly junk. Check the version before my edit to see what I mean. --Asulca593 00:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Template

Looking at the three links provided, I find most everything that the article says. I'm removing the template. If you find particular statements not mentioned on the Charo.com, Charo.info, or IMDb links, then take issue with them specifically. But to say that "This article or section does not cite its references or sources" is to completely ignore the external links listed. Laszlo Panaflex 23:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

It may be that there is a need to attribute some more colorful or incredible items to the specific source from which they came. However, I have since added some material (I think!) that had specific references, so that should help. Lawikitejana 20:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm seriously tempted to research on Miss Baeza using Spanish-language sources. She has this cartoonish image in the English speaking world, but for Spaniards and Latin Americans she's simply a next-door girl who made it big through hard work and perseverance... and a bit of jiggling and use of the thick Murcian accent as a stereotype/gimmick, perhaps, but made it big, nonetheless. This article is way too light as it is right now. Let's see what I can dig up...Demf 20:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cugat's previous wives

The article claimed that Cugat had been married twice before his marriage to Charo. Here are his four previous wives:

  1. Rita Montaner
  2. Carmen Castillo
  3. Lorraine Allen
  4. Abbe Lane

—SlamDiego 16:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ...has caused more erections than Frank Lloyd Wright ???

"spectacularly sexy body, including her huge round breasts with their unusually large, pointed nipples"

very funny, but what is this, a Playboy article?

These statements have no place in an encyclopedia unless they are quotations, and even if they are, there are no references. Quality control, hello?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.93.44.98 (talk) 18:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

It was vandalism and has now been undone. Any user can make such an edit; simply click the "edit this page" tab at the top of the article and make the change yourself. If the change is in a certain section of the article, there may be an "edit" link there, too, which lets you review just the section in question (helpful for long articles). We are all each other's "quality control."

Lawikitejana 20:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Guitar Playing Dubbed In

My wife told me that Charo can't actually play the guitar as well as most believe. She says that when you see her do so, it is dubbed in by a more qualifed musical person. Should we put this in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.35.176.49 (talk • contribs) 18 May 2007

As noted in the banner at the head of this Talk page, it is especially important that controversial or potentially libelous details be verified thoroughly using reliable sources. A quick Google search doesn't show anything remotely supportive of this claim, so my answer would be a deafening NO unless someone turns up credible published sources.
I can see why people would be quick to believe this sort of thing, as they find it difficult to believe that an attractive, buxom woman who cultivates a goofy public personality actually could be an accomplished guitarist, but without something to back up the claim of faking (or even anyone else who makes the claim!), it's more logical to believe that her playing is real, after all these years. Just look how quickly Milli Vanilli's claims were found out. Lawikitejana 05:49, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Love Boat appearances

The text says 21 appearances, the appearances list says 8. So does IMDB. Can anyone back up 21 appearances? --Thespian 06:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Birth

The dates of birth are all over the place. I'm pretty sure that Charo's birth year was never offically 1911, and I don't think that she was married at least twenty years before she was born. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.224.134 (talk) 02:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "From" or "To"?

The Biography section has Charo's father fleeing "from Casablanca" during Franco's reign, while her mother "stayed behind in Murcia". Since, additionally, Casablanca was not under Spanish control, surely Charo's father fled to Casablanca. Right? --72.70.18.83 (talk) 09:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] ...her mother stayed behind in Bangladesh?

Is this true?. I think she lived during her childhood in Murcia, Spain. Please, remove that false asseveration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.128.75.225 (talk) 14:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)