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[edit] Scary Movie 3

Why, when I click on Scary Movie 3, I am redirected to Charlie Sheen?

[edit] Ancestry..

The sentence "Carlos/Charlie is half hispanic and half Irish." seems at best inaccurate, and at worst derogatory. Ancestry is rarely that simple, and "hispanic" is ambiguous enough to cause problems. I think that would need a lot of work before something similar was added. Wikibofh 16:18, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Oh, poppycock. Sure, it could be more precise, as there is more than one nationality that falls under the word "Hispanic", but how that's derogatory I can't even begin to understand. --Kamagurka 19:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Noting that someone is Hispanic is derogatory? Or noting that someone is Irish is derogatory? Do you feel that being Hispanic or Irish is bad or cause for humiliation in some way? Please explain. 64.232.129.214 22:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Children's Names

Was reported in USA Today that his daughters' names are Lola Rose and Sam J, not Lola Irene and Sam Katherine as page state. Corrections duly made.

Changing his daughter's name again. It is Sam J, not Samantha Katherine.

[edit] Conspiracypedia

The man does something like 60 movies. Somehow his encyclopedia article ends up being 1/3rd about an Alex Jones interview. So this is the pivotal event in Mr. Sheen's career and deserves a soapbox that big? The phrase "Hell in a handbasket" comes to mind, Wikipedia-quality-wise. Weregerbil 11:34, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree, and have removed much of the reference to the Alex Jones-related stuff. Not fully accurate (re Google censorshp), nor of encyclopedic value). --mtz206 13:23, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Please add more info about other aspects of his obviously notable life, but do not remove verified info. --Striver 13:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Im sure there is more to add about him. Please do that. If there is not, then i rest my case. --Striver 13:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

This is an utterly unimportant piece of trivia and has no place being here. If you listen to the interview Sheen is given a two minute spot at the beginning of the interview to promote his work. Likely as not, he plays along with Mr. Jones' tongue-in-cheek radio show to get the ad spot. Weregerbil 13:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Bro, his interview with Alex was covered by CNN [1]. Its not trivia, in his own words: "we are twenty minutes into this, and I am sure I'm being demonized across the nation by ... you know.. all the the people that do that sort of things".--Striver 13:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Again: 60 movies, 40 years old, done a lot of stuff, now his encyclopedia article is 1/3rd about one interview, complete with a dozen external links. You honestly don't see how that is a very bad quality encyclopedia article? This is such an utterly insignificant little factoid about this person. Weregerbil 13:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Please review the discussion at Talk:History of Google where the claim of Google' censuring this story was de-bunked. User:Striver has been trying to place these references to Alex Jones' theories on Google, Internet, Internet2, Google and privacy issues and now here. These are not notable references, not reliable sources and add little encyclopedic value to these articles. This is an encyclopedia, not a soapbox nor an indiscriminate collection of information Feel free to add these theories to the Alex Jones article as indicative of his beliefs, but they do not belong here. --mtz206 13:45, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Needs to be more about him banging Ginger Lynn. She is one hell of a movie prostitute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.49.95 (talk) 02:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


-- Response to above, This goes to show that the critics of Sheen know little of what they critique. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.113.81.27 (talk • contribs)


--Response to above, You said "Muslims also bombed the WTC in 1993". You have just totally discredited yourself. Read the actual court documents before you pretend to know something. The FBI ADMITTED culpubality in the 93 WTC bombings. They furnished the explosives. The FBI was setting it up as a sting, that is a part of the public record.--- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.167.100 (talk • contribs)

Because the evidence does not support the "19 Muslim cave-men did it" theory. --Striver 02:22, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Disregarding whether or not the FBI allegation is true (because I don't have the time to look it up), setting it up as a sting operation is not the same as trying blow it up. The bombers, who were Muslim, intended to blow up the WTC and were not enticed or entrapped to do so. Whether or not the FBI unwittingly helped them by supplying explosives and failing to stop the operation doesn't absolve them of blame. Who's more culpable, the people who set out to blow it up or the FBI who fracked up a sting operation? --Mmx1 11:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Could you please provide some evidence of any Muslim men being on those planes?--Striver 13:56, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
This disucssion is becoming irrelevant to Charlie Sheen and should perhaps be continued elsewhere. --mtz206 14:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


Alright, this has become absolutely ridiculous. Charlie Sheen is an actor, not a political analyst, he's not a national security adviser, nor is he an expert on architecture and demolition (if, indeed, he is these things, then I find it very interesting that the author of the 9/11 opinion piece did not include that information), so, as far as I can see it, any and all of his opinions with regards to the accuracy of the 9/11 commission report or a government "conspiracy", to use the term, are completely and utterly irrelevant and I believe that the section that has been devoted to his opinions on this matter should be completely removed. Since Charlie sheen is an actor, why not focus on his acting career rather than his opinions about the War on Terror. If no one objects, then I'll remove the section in three days (give time for anyone to voice an objection, if they can come up with one) on May 25, 2006. Roygene 23:23, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Like Sheen said himself on Jimmy Kimmel's show, all you need in this country to have a voice is be a tax paying American who loves their country. If you believe otherwise, I suggest you define what makes a true American then hmmm? I suppose you're suggesting a true American is somebody who just "yes mans" whatever his/her leader(s). In which case if somebody does otherwise, are subject to some type of law violation. If this is accurate, then what you're advocating is tyranny by definition, not freedom, nor liberty. And for everyone's information, the FBI/US Government hasn't indicted Bin Laden for 9/11 either, due to lack of evidence. That's right people, the fat man dressed up like him turned out to be someone else! Stop refuting the evidence and wake up! JanusPaul 16:08, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Alex Jones interviews fork

Seems a content fork has been made dealing with the Alex Jones interviews. See Charlie Sheen and Alex Jones interviews --mtz206 00:11, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

No, its creating a breakout article about a event that would dominate the main article, exactly what Wikpedia Policies command in this kind of situations. --Striver 12:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stage name

When did Charlie legally adopt his stage name and had he used is as his stage name before? Nil Einne 22:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is it just me....

....or has this article about Charlie Sheen been vandalised?

Seeing that Mr. Sheen had made his coments in the media, I went to wikipedia to see what kind of history he had. But to my surprise, I found that the article was almost nothing but a long list of all the bad things about Charlie Sheen. He was a "blue baby", he did coke, he did prostitutes, etc. etc. etc.

I never found a reason to point my finger at anything on wikipedia before, but this article is very biased. It's not even an article, but more like badly hidden slander. And I must say, I'm not surprised to find this after his media statements. It's obvious that people with a lack of valid arguments are doing everything they can to smear his name.

Unfortunately I am new to this thing (only signed up just now to comment on this), so I don't know how to tag this article with a warning-sign. But I really think it deserves one.

Quote: "Sheen has been dogged by trouble,75.46.13.101 23:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC) including drugs and a shooting, and he has frequently had problems with the police. Though he was involved with a number of Hollywood personalities, his long-term relationship with adult actress Ginger Lynn in the late 1990s garnered the most media attention. In 1993, his name was found among Hollywood Madam Heidi Fleiss' list of her most frequent customers, and it was revealed that Sheen hired top-class prostitutes and spent huge amounts on escort agencies. During this time, he also had a serious cocaine addiction."

That's great. Especially when it's about 1/3 of the article. Oh, and that other thing to, about what a miserable creature he was as a child. And then something about all his failed marriages, and that's about it. Great article, good job. Charlie Sheen sure is pathetic, so do not listen to a word he saies. I get it.

This article is aggrevating. Can somebody please put up a big red tag on it? It is clearly written by somebody who hates the guy.

I did some work on the article, adding more neutral biographical details and rewriting the personal life section to make it seem less POV. I think the article is fairly neutral in its current incarnation, although it could still use some more work. --Hyperbole 02:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Bellerofron


Possibly information on his life growing up and how he got into acting might help show that his life isn't based off of hookers and cocaine? Oh, and how he's spent the past few years researching the events that occurred on 9/11. Unless those things aren't notable enough, in which case the hookers and cocaine would remain since those things probably are notable enough. --71.112.5.94 10:53, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't see how you can call him being a blue baby as a bad thing about him. It's just a fact of him and doesn't make him bad anymore then being blind or deaf makes you a bad person Nil Einne 16:14, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Check out Whitney Houston's entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_Houston

Not meaning to be cruel, but the poor woman's life is a drug tragedy. But she has a good write-up.

Because she doesn't speak up, maybe? The lesson seems to be: don't buck the system.

I agree. It's ironic that there was SUCH a big fuss over "too much 9/11 info" before, but now some people INSIST on repeating all of the crappy Denise Richards allegations that are freely available on her page. What gives?

Nakedtruth 19:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

The information on the Sheen/Richards divorce is as relevant to Charlie Sheen as it is to Denise Richards. To limit it to Richards' page in order to make Sheen's views on 9/11 conspiracies look more credible is simply not an NPOV edit. I'm all for trying to create a balanced article, but deciding to resolve a redundancy in a fashion that supports a POV you'd like to be stressed in the article is not the way to do that. --Hyperbole 02:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
You're can't have it both ways. Denise Richards specifically mentioned 9/11 in her divorce filings yet you claim there was "no evidence" that his 9/11 beliefs had nothing to do with the divorce. Further at this point the divorce no longer has prominence on the Denise Richards page. If you want to include information about the divorce include information about the divorce. "Cherry picking" the information by leaving out the fact that it happened right after Charlie went public on 9/11 and ignoring the fact that Denise cited this as a reason for the divorce is not being consistent. Nakedtruth 14:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link

http://www.lastingnetworks.com/alex/charlie_sheen.htm --Striver 10:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I had deleted this, but put it back in order to make proper comment. Why are you adding links without any comment? (See also [2] [3]. Such actions possibly violate guidelines on external link spamming. --mtz206 17:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
The links are there for information, i see no need to copy a part of the article, anyone intrested can take a short look and get just as informed as they would be with me adding a sentance. --Striver 19:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
This is not the proper use of a Talk page. Links should not be added just "for information." According to the basic rules for talk pages:
The purpose of a talk page is to help to improve the contents of the article in question. Questions, challenges, excised text (due to truly egregious confusion or bias, for example), arguments relevant to changing the text, and commentary on the main page are all fair play. Wikipedians generally oppose the use of talk pages just for the purpose of partisan talk about the main subject. Wikipedia is not a soapbox; it's an encyclopedia.
If you want to include a link to support an argument relevant to the content of the article, please feel free. Otherwise it flirts with WP:NOT . --mtz206 22:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] chronological order?

Wouldn't it be better if the "personal life" section were in chronological order? Uucp 03:19, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Erm

Shouldn't someone remove the pornographic image on this page? It may be something to do with recent vandalism..

[edit] More film information?

In the Career section there is a very small amount of information about the films he has been in. Charlie Sheen I believe is more of a movie star than a TV star yet the whole thing seems to be based on TV. Any Sheen fans who could write up a decent story about his movie career, mentioning Hot Shots and the like?

I also agree that this is a very negative article, maybe biased but i'll abstain from voting on the matter

[edit] How tall

How tall is he? I it true they made the set of Two and A Half Men smaller to make him and his costar look taller? --Gbleem 07:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Small set for two and a half men

Is it true that the set for two and a half men is made 80% of normal size to make Sheen look taller? If not I would like to start that rumor. If enough people repeat it we can get the news outlet to repeat it and then quote it in Wikipedia. --Gbleem 17:28, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smoking Gun: Reliable Source?

Is this a tabloid? Piperdown 17:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] poltical changes

Didn't Sheen used to be a Bush supporter? Would appear his views have moved leftward, to say the least...any further information on this? Seems like a large jump for a former Republican supporter to now be supporting left wing conspiracy theories... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.72.215.225 (talk) 17:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] High School? Classmates?

Other Wikipedia articles list Sheen as Santa Monica High School alumnus and his father as Chaminade-Julienne High School alumnus. Penn, Lowe, and Sheen (and other Estevez family) are on the SMHS alumni list, making the classmate tag possibly accurate (although Penn is 4 years older than Lowe and 5 years older than Sheen). Reference 1 of the Rob Lowe article says Penn was a classmate and the Sheen/Estevez family were neighbors (not classmates).

[edit] Image

Hello there, I have an image available, but I would like instructions on how exactly to upload it, the image instructions on the page aren't very clear.--Hammerandclaw (talk) 19:06, 21 February 2008 (UTC)