Talk:Charles Moskos

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Contents 1 Death 2 Cleanup 3 Sources 4 Bitter comments removed 5 Source Date 6 Sad shape 7 Sources for quotes

[edit] Death

Mr. Moskos has apparently just passed away (6/1/08). Someone might want to add that information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andre3k1 (talk • contribs) 08:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I've found sources for several of the statements that were listed as needing them, and have moved the others here. If anyone can find a source for the following, please feel free to add it back in with the appropriate citation:

According to people from his field, Moskos knows his subject inside out because of his intensive field research.^{[citation needed]} He doesn't just read about the military but goes out in the field with the troops and interviews as well as test his ideas on them.^{[citation needed]}

The following I've deleted both because I could find no source, and because it seems mostly irrelevant to the article, or at least the section in which it was placed. I wouldn't suggest adding it back in:

He recalls that one of the reasons the draft was accepted in those days is because draftees included many from prominent family backgrounds.^{[citation needed]} In his Princeton graduating class of 750 more then half served in the armed forces, including Neil Rudenstine, Pete DuPont, and Johnny [R.W.] Apple.

I am now going to do some cleanup editing for grammar and clarity, and then remove the "citations needed" tag. If anyone has objections to any of these changes, please discuss. Viciouslies 18:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

This article is at best an alright start. The way its written suggests that somebody who had an interest in promoting Charles Moskos wrote it, and includes NPOV statements, such as calling his works "...stellar sources" and such. Whether they are or not is irrelevent, and the article needs editing to remove and fix these problematic phrases and suggestive style.

[edit] Sources

... agree with the above comment. There are quite a few claims regarding Dr Moskos's popularity, "stellar"-ness as a source, etc that require some kind of citation. I've added a few tags to statements that need citations. I don't know enough about the subject to cite sources, but I think the article would be a lot stronger with some kind of reference. MastCell 02:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bitter comments removed

... while on a personal level I agree with the comments inserted anonymously by User:71.245.145.15 in the last revision, they probably don't belong in a Wikipedia article. This article is still in pretty poor shape... if the original contributor is still around, give us some citations for all of the praise that "people" are lavishing on Moskos. MastCell 21:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source Date

Anyone else notice that the article has a "retrieved on" date from the future?

[edit] Sad shape

This article continues to be in fairly sad shape. Instead of inserting more pro-Moskos slant, can we find contributors who can actually source some of the statements in this article? It started out as a hagiography of Moskos, then was edited down to remove POV, and now is a mishmash. Anyone know more on this topic who can help? MastCell 23:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for quotes

Just a reminder, based on the recent edit by User:213.84.19.154, that quotes need to be sourced if they are added to an article. That was the basis of the reversion. MastCell 18:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)