Talk:Charles Gounod

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[edit] Date of birth

I've put Gounod's birthdate as June 17, although some sources give June 18. I think most of the June 17 sources are older, and June 18 is probably a result of more recent scholarship, but I can't check this right now, so I'm leaving it at June 17 because we have him listed as born on that page. If anybody knows better, please change. --Camembert

(Later) - actually, most modern sources seem to give June 17 as well - I think I was just looking at some dodgy books. --Camembert

The very reliable source of Sadie, S. (ed.) (1980) The New Grove Dictionary of Music & Musicians, [vol. # 7] lists June 18. -- Michael David 15:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

This site, maintained by Gounod’s great-great-grandson, who one would think would have access to all the records, says he was born 17 June 1818 and died 17 October (not 18 October) 1893. I for one tend to place some trust in this. If he was really born on 17 June 1818, it would be easy to see how an 18 could be transposed into the day; but if he was really born on 18 June 1818, it's hard to see how a 17 could enter the equation. Other sites say he was born in 1817, not 1818. This even says: "The generally accepted date of Gounod's birth, 1818, has been disputed by an old friend and pupil of his mother, who states it must have been as early as 1811 or 1812." There are so many permutations of these dates out there, most dealing with various combinations of 17s and 18s, that it may be necessary to gain access to his birth and death certificates to be sure. -- JackofOz (talk) 08:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It couldnt hurt to cite the varying sources. Slominsky, a stickler for these details, gives June 17, 1818-Oct. 18, 1893 without further comment in Baker's (7th ed). The Online Grove I'm looking at agrees with both of these! James Harding (Gounod, 1973) gives October 17 "at twenty five past six in the morning" for Gounod's death. Sparafucil (talk) 21:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation of name

Pronunciation of name? EreinionImage:RAHSymbol.JPG 01:53, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"Goo"+"no". Had I known this before taking public speaking, much embarassment would have been saved. "Goo", as in "gooey". "No" as in the opposite of "yes". - Nunh-huh 01:58, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes, exactly. I appreciate it. EreinionImage:RAHSymbol.JPG 22:17, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)

You've heard the story of the English tourist in Weimar? "Who's this Goaty I keep seeing statues of?" "It is not 'Goaty"! He is Goethe, the immortal author of Faust." "Well I'd never seen it spelled before. But you know, in England we pronounce it...." Sparafucil (talk) 21:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)