Talk:Charing Cross tube station

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[edit] Closed to the Travelling Public

I added this to the statement that the Jubilee line platforms are now closed. I did it because "closed" may be thought of as abandoned as in "the railway line has closed". However they are not abandoned. From a railway operations point of view they are still very much in use. I understand they are used quite a lot - particularly if it is necessary to suspend the line south of Green Park as trains run empty to the Jubilee line platforms where the driver changes ends.

The statement was removed on the grounds of "unnecessary wordiness". I beg to differ as I think it clarifies a point. However if it is still felt that this is unnecessary wordiness then please remove it and I will not reinstate it again--Pedantic of Purley 22:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

If you wish for it to stay, then so be it. I'd certainly dispute whether it's necessary, though, as from what I understand there aren't even regular rusty-rail movements to Charing Cross any more. Even if some part of the line is used for reversing trains, it's little more than an extended turnback siding and the platforms aren't necessary for that. --Mike 21:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
However, if the Docklands Light Railway's extension to Charing Cross is given the go-ahead, these platforms may be in use once more. Simply south 19:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming

The detail on the 1915 renaming states that the Bakerloo station now known as Embankment reverted to that name at that point (without asserting when it did change to Charing Cross of fairly recent memory). That's in conflict what is stated in 'The Spread of London's Underground' published by Capital Transport. It seems highly unlikely that LER would have confused everyone by doing that, as the purpose of the 1914 and 1915 renamings would have been to avoid confusion. On the strength of the above published work I'm about to change the article accordingly. I haven't yet looked at what the Embankment article says but I may change that too. Ivanberti (talk) 09:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

No, it's wrong. In 1915 the southern Bakerloo and Northern stations became "Charing Cross". Based on Douglas Rose's Diagrammatic History, the changes were thus:
DATE DISTRICT (S) BAKERLO (S) NORTHERN (S) BAKERLOO (N) NORTHERN (N)
30/05/1870 Charing Cross N/A N/A N/A N/A
10/03/1906 Charing Cross Embankment N/A Trafalgar Square N/A
22/06/1907 Charing Cross Embankment N/A Trafalgar Square Charing Cross
06/04/1914 Charing Cross Charing Cross (Embankment) Charing Cross (Embankment) Trafalgar Square Charing Cross (Strand)
09/05/1915 Charing Cross Charing Cross Charing Cross Trafalgar Square Strand
04/08/1974 Charing Cross Embankment Charing Cross Embankment Charing Cross Embankment Trafalgar Square N/A - closed 16/06/1973
12/09/1976 Embankment Embankment Embankment Trafalgar Square N/A
01/05/1977 Embankment Embankment Embankment Charing Cross Charing Cross
Bold denotes the name on opening or a name change, italics means an existing unchanged name at the time of other openings/changings. Nick Cooper (talk) 10:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)