Talk:Characters in Resident Evil 2

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[edit] HUNK split

The only reason why I created these lists in the first place is because most of these articles weren't real encyclopedic articles, but plot summaries centering around one character or fictional biographies written from an in-universe perspective. From a real world perspective, there's not much you can say about the characters without reiterating the plots of the game and the Resident Evil 4 characters demostrate that (the Ramon Salazar and Bitores Mendez articles were pretty pathetic to be honest).

I don't know why someone persists on splitting HUNK from this list. There's not much you can say about him from a real world perspective, other than he appeared as a hidden character in two games. Jonny2x4 01:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Still Johnny, you should have taken it to the HUNK talk page and discussed with the other editors before deleting an entire article and linking it elsewhere just because you yourself believe it to be better; it's just good etiquette, and I know other people have complained about this to you in the past... I tend to agree with the others that it would be better for separate articles - I can see no good reasons to link an article to an overly long character list article. Remember, wiki isn't a paper encyclopaedia. Turning a very small article on one character into a huge article list of various character's doesn't seem any better to me. Parjay 16:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
True. Wikipedia isn't a paper encyclopedia. But it isn't a video game fansite either. Most of these stand-alone articles tend turn out to be very short as you said. Because of this, most writers tend to rely over an in-universe perspective, writing fictional biographies and basically just reiterating the plot while centering on one character. If you look at the Sherry Birkin article before the merge, most of it was just about William Birkin and how he caused the viral outbreak in Raccoon City.
We're not really missing much about HUNK here. He appeared in RE2 as a hidden character, had his background fleshed out in later games and then appeared again in RE4 in a non-plot minigame. I don't even think his face or codename are that big of a deal. His face is shown in RE3 as it wasn't a big deal (if people wanted to see his face badly, just play RE3) and the fact that his codename is spelled in all caps doesn't neccesarily mean his name is an acronym (it's not uncommon for codenames to be spelled in all caps and either way, it's baseless speculation).Jonny2x4 03:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
You still haven't given an reasons that justify the un-discussed move. Regardless of how short he original article is, I see no justification that the short article should be implemented into a huge, long article - it's false logic. Parjay 13:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
One word. Notability. There's not much you can say about HUNK from a real world POV. Sure, he had some background revealed in later games, but his only notable role was in a plot-related minigame RE2. Likewise for William Birkin (although, he did reappear in Zero). Better to have them on a list of character. I don't see how this list is huge (it's relative small compared to fictional characters list). Jonny2x4 22:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Again, you still aren't providing an answer. I'm not questioning the validity of the articles contained on this list, it's why they should be in a huge list and not separate. You still haven't given a reason as to why you (singularly) felt they shouldn't be separate and lumped them together. Parjay 23:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I thought I made it clear when I cited the previous examples. It's easier to manage a single list of characters than to maintain six or seven seperate articles. It reduces the need to reiterate the game's plot for each article and also reduces the need for game or plot cruft. It's also easier to detect vandalism and needless speculation this way. Jonny2x4 03:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
True, true. Parjay 19:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
You say people who want to see HUNK's face should play RE3. Maybe it'd be easy for you to beat RE3 3 times in a row, but I'd find it a bit difficult and cumbersome when it could be as easily available on Wikipedia. Also, HUNK is not only in RE2- If it was a overall RE list, and the picture was there, I'd accept the list. However, as it stands, I must disagree with you. Leetdood 04:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Not sure how this was related to the conversation at hand, but posting HUNK's face on Wikipedia would be a huge, HUGE spoiler to the rest of us. If you really need to see HUNK's face, there is always Google Image Search. -D14BL0 (talk) 17:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


True. HUNK did appear in a total of three games, but his only notable role is still in RE2. In RE4, he was merely a bonus character in a non-plot minigame and I don't count his appearance in the Outbreak games since he was only accessible through game modifying cheat devices (which I think constitute copyrights infringement). Marvin has appeared in a total of three RE games (RE2, RE3 and Outbreak 2), but his primary role is still in RE2.
As for HUNK'a face. I don't think it's revelant enough from a real-world perspective (especially since the character is seen more and seems more like trivia. Likewise, anyway who wants to see the Resident Evil 3 epilogues could get them from any fansite like vgmuseum.Jonny2x4 07:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I think HUNK needs his own page. I came on here looking up info about him and all I found was this article and it wasn't enough. I mean, the guy has 3 different action figures that I know of, that's more then Wesker I think. Why not just give him his own page? There is alot of info about him and I feel it needs to be on wikipeida. Wieners 16:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

HUNK has a fair amount of information in the Resident Evil Archives book, and this article pretty much covers it. I do think he should be shown unmasked here as well though, it makes it easier for people. What's the relevance to Killzone? There are a lot of similarities between LOTS of soldiers and the HUNK design. Who cares?

HUNK should recieve his own page for the same reason that Leon has his. Although there isn't as much info regarding HUNK as Leon, that doesn't detract from the fact that he is a character in the RE universe. Likewise, the other characters on the list are worthy of their own articles as well. I'm sure if someone put as much effort into an article regarding someone like Chris Redfeild or Jill Valentine, that a HUNK article would be possible. Also pistures of him in his masked and unmasked states would be useful.

HUNK should have his own page separate from my main argument, look the whole talk page is about him. also it's the fact that he is a "playable character"that separates him from marvin. also you can count the fact that he is essentialy to resident evil what chameleon is to Mortal combat but... he has a story line and background info. also look at all of the other separate RE character pages all they are is one gigantic filler with nothing telling of relationships with other characters or their personality. Deanostrodamus the Mystical (talk) 15:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

HUNK can easily have his own page. With Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles, there is a LOT of information on all the characters from the first four RE games in the "Archives" section, and HUNK has some additional stuff there, too. There are also rumors that Capcom expects HUNK to have a more important role in Resident Evil 5 somehow, so we'll soon see what kind of information we can get on HUNK.

[edit] Hunk in RE: Umbrella Chronicles

I removed the part about Hunk being in Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles for the Wii, since there has been no reliable or official information regarding this. SeraphisCain 18:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Just to inform, a render of him was released a few weeks ago in Capcom's Press site. CrushNush 17:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
HUNK is playable in Umbrella Chronicles. His is one of the last unlockable missions and is essentially a recap of his mission in RE2. I did not notice any new content with HUNK, aside from the ending where he takes off his helmet. The camera goes to first-person mode in the cutscene, and the helmet comes off. HUNK looks down at the vial containing the virus sample, and you can see his reflection in the glass. -D14BL0 (talk) 17:10, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HUNK vs. Hunk

I've always seen "HUNK" spelled in all capital letters when referring to him. Though it was only 3 times: During and at the end of the Fourth Survivor, his signature on his report found in Code Veronica, and in The Mercenaries in Resident Evil 4. Yet, in the article here his name is never once spelled in all capital letters. Was there some discussion on the matter that I'm not privy to? Wildodeelf 10:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Central discussion for RE article splits

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games regarding the status of individual character articles and a proliferation of articles dealing with RE fiction. Please join in if you are interested. Ham Pastrami (talk) 00:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)