Talk:Characters from The Incredibles

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[edit] Syndrome

Syndrome's section has too much detail. He has his own article, after all. -Toptomcat 16:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gazerbeam

Gazerbeam should be merged with Incredible characters. He was a minor character Huh? What was that noise? 08:15, 28 September 2006 (UTC)No-Dachi

  • While he may not merit a full page of his own, and he contributed more to the plot of The Incredibles in death than in life, his life has significantly more known detail than most of the Supers. Suggest merge into a seperate paragraph on the "characters" page. DiogenesNY 16:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree with DiogenesNY. The section on minor supers from the DVD was recently added and Gazerbeam doesn't fit into it well since he is mentioned more in the movie than any of the others. Eluchil404 21:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge He didn't appear in the movie as a character, just a corpse. CovenantD 02:15, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge'. Not noteworthy enough for an inidvidual article, but fairly important for the plot. RMS Oceanic 12:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I have merged the articles with only slight editing of Gazerbeam's entry to fit it into its new place. Anyone is welcome to further remove trivial content, fix links, etc. Eluchil404 18:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page Move

I've moved the page to Characters from The Incredibles; since the movie is named The Incredibles the article should be capitalized, IMHO. I'm currently fixing double redirects and adding the newly supported redirects to sections, but would appreciate a second set of eyes to make sure that I have done everything correctly. Eluchil404 14:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Not a bad idea, but generally page moves and such need to be discussed beforehand on the Talk page. There is an enormous tempest in a teapot brewing in the Television Wikiproject, where editors are fighting over naming conventions, and some editors are executing page moves without warning. In this case, the change is trivial, but take a look at Template:lowercase as that allows capitalization issues to be addressed without playing the shell game with pages.

I'll take a look at your work with my "second set of eyes," but tell me what redirect pages were effected nevermind, I can see that with "links to this page" page. Thanks for putting a note here on the Talk page. David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 15:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
You're right that I should have asked here first, especially since fixing all the double redirects would be a pain if it was decided that I had been to bold. It is perhaps worth noting that the original title was my mistake as I over compensated for my tendency to capitalize. In any event, I am excited by the new capability to redirect to a section which makes links like Gazerbeam much more useful whatever the name of the mainpage. Eluchil404 12:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] THE Macrobursts

Nick_ his super power was able to turn things into metal he manged to defeat omnidroid vx6 but later killed by Omnidroid VX7.

[edit] Bomb Voyage

Just passing through, I thought it was interesting that Bomb Voyage was originally intended to be named Bomb Pérignon, but the Dom Pérignon people would not endorse have a villain named after their product. This was revealed by Brad Bird in the DVD commentary, it may be worth noting in the article. Just a head's up. Annie D 09:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The OTHER Incredibles

Okay, I understand the RM of the Frozone trivia, but the other edit I made about the original Incredibles stays, right? SaliereTheFish 19:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bomb Voyage parallel...

Could it be stated that the Bomb Voyage character could be considered a reference to the Joker from the Batman series? WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 19:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Only if you have a credible source to which such an assertion can be attributed. Nightscream (talk) 20:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Edna Mode edits

Since there appears to be an edit conflict between myself and Stealth500 over the Edna Mode section, it seems reasonable for me to explain my rationale as to my recent edits. The following are the aspects of the section I edited:

Edna cares a great deal about the supers who are willing to pay her a huge sum of money for her designs. This is not sourced, as it is a personal interpretation of the editor who placed it in the section. The character may very well care about the supers, but that is not a major aspect of her character. If anything, she appears (at least overtly) to be far more self-absorbed than caring. Any ally or fellow "good guy" can said to care about them; it's not necessary to specify this. Since the page is already 32 kilobytes long, trimming it down to the essentials would seem reasonable to me.

Naturally, she had to warn Mr. Incredible about the impracticality of capes... She did not "have" to warn him, nor was it "natural", since again, this is the opinion of the editor who wrote this. Edna opined that she did not like capes for this reason, and chose to express her opinion thus, whereas Mr. Incredible favored capes, so it was her opinion. This is why I edited it to read "Edna refuses to design super suits with capes, in light of the [supers killed by them]".

...which, prior to the ban on superheroes, led to the deaths of Dynaguy (strangled by his cape while flying with his rocket boosters), Meta-Man (his cape was caught in an elevator shaft while helping an elevator go up), Stratogale (whose cape caused her to get cut to pieces while helping a plane from a tornado and unexpectedly flew in front of the engine) , and Thunderhead (stuck on a missle when stopping a mad scientist from destroying the city) and the disappearance and possible death of Splashdown (whose cape caused him to be choked and sucked into a vortex). This level of detail is not necessary for a section that is on Edna Mode, rather than these other heroes. I also don't see why Stratogale's flying in front of the airliner was "unexpected". Again, the page is already giving size warnings, so this should be trimmed. The cause of these characters' deaths would more appropriate for the section in which they are listed, and not in Edna's. Let's keep the section succinct. Nightscream (talk) 16:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC) Nightscream (talk) 16:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I can understand why it is that you would trim it down, however the way you trimmed it here and here makes it look less important. If you would like, you could giev the names and then put all of what happened but in a shorter version. Either that or we would need links to that character in the article, could that work? --Talk to Stealth500 (talk) 18:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think I made that info look less important, I just think it was more relevant to those characters than Edna. I believe the characters in question are listed further below in the article. Since they don't have their own individual sections (due to the small amount of info on each), the only way to link to them is to link to the entire "Other superheroes" section. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 19:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I just did another edit here, tell me if that will work. --Talk to Stealth500 (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I think the previous edit contains all the important info and is more streamlined. Nightscream (talk) 03:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)