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Wording issues again

A user left a message on my talk page about the wording of MediaWiki:Emailforlost (I figure that's what he was talking about, even though he's following up on our discussion of MediaWiki:Prefs-help-email, the wording of which hasn't changed since you took my suggestion back in April). So I'd like to suggest a change to MediaWiki:Emailforlost, also (my edit in bold): "* E-mail address is optional; no confirmation is required. However, giving your e-mail address allows other users to send you mail, and enables you to request password reminders. We won't reveal your address to anyone, unless you use the "E-mail this user" feature to send mail to another user." A little redundant, perhaps, but I think it drives the point home a little more clearly. - dcljr (talk) 05:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Puzzled

Hi - Do you have any idea what these folks are talking about? -- Rick Block (talk) 03:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

If it's about what was shown at User:Bkell/Sandbox (the first list item has its width constrained by the image, instead of wrapping around it), I found the cause and a workaround. But I'm not 100% sure it was that issue they were talking about. --cesarb 22:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I think you're right. Thanks for looking into this. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:14, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Archiving

CesarB,

How did you archive all the first 136 sections in your talk page? Don't you dare say that you'll tell me only if I pay you $$$. My tildes are symbols like this:¬.

User:Sean gorter did this.

Archiving

Hey thanks CesarB. I know how to archive my talk subjects now. You're great!


Sean gorter 12:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Can I interest you in a formatting discussion?

Hi - There's a discussion at Template talk:Infobox City#class bordered or not that I think you may find interesting. I'd be interested in your opinions on this. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Exercise MAPLE FLAG

Could it not have been left in place based on this under the "Non-commercial Reproduction" section? Just curious. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Adminship thing, or whatever.

Just curious for later, how do you request to become an administrator? --Sean gorter{talk with me}22:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests for adminship and Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship. --cesarb 16:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
It's not telling me how. not a bit. It's just telling me about being an administrator and the benefits of being an administrator.--Sean gorter 16:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Sean gorter again.

How do I join the Esperanza or the Counter Vandalism Unit?--Sean gorter

Pass of Brander

I was working to create this article which you appear to have deleted. Rcpaterson 02:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I had already written an article on the Battle of Culblean in much the same fashion. Your action has caused me to loose a good two hours work. I am relatively new to this project and have been spending much time eliminating a great many errors in my area of expertise, and rephrasing badly written articles. It is only now that I am beginning to work up items from nothing. I am still unclear why you effectively sabotaged my work before I had a chance to finish. I will certainly think twice before I waste my time in this fashion in future. Have you nothing better to do? Rcpaterson 02:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

No, I can't find it. As far as I am aware it is completely gone. I recently joined the military history group. There are a number of red article requests, and the two I worked on were both there, in that part concerned with the Scottish Wars of Independence. I simply took the red headline and started to work from that. The Culblean piece was fine-though it took two sessions to finish. You know what happened to my efforts on the Battle of the Pass of Brander; and I have to stress once again that I had been writing for well over an hour. Rcpaterson 03:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Cest la vie. Can't be helped; at least I now know there was no malice involved. Rcpaterson 05:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I am pleased to report that the Battle of Pass of Brander is now up and running, restored rather than resurrected! Rcpaterson 17:24, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Padding for an infobox

Hi - I'm trying to come up with a somewhat simpler version of template:Infobox Country, see User:Rick Block/Template:Infobox Country. I'm having trouble getting the padding to look similar. It appears that the padding specified in the infobox style in common.css can't be overridden globally for the infobox. Does this make sense to you? If you could take a look at this I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure of what you are trying to do, but:
  • The padding is for .infobox on Common.css, but not for .infobox th or .infobox td
  • Using the DOM Inspector, I can see that the computed padding for the table element is 0px, even if both Common.css and your inline style says otherwise
  • Looking at [1], we have "Also, in this model, a table doesn't have padding (but does have margins)", which explains why it's 0px
  • The computed value being 0px means you can't simply use inherit (it'd be 0px too)
  • There's no way to, with inline style, change the padding for all cells (since inherit doesn't work); you really need a descendent selector
The best way would probably be to add another class (so you'd use class="infobox infobox-country" and have something like .infobox-country th, .infobox-country td { padding: 0.4em 1em 0.4em 0 } on Common.css)
--cesarb 22:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

What I'm trying to do is emulate the look of the existing Country infobox, but in a way that might be (easily) reusable in other infoboxes (like template:Infobox City and the numerous country subdivision templates like Template:Infobox U.S. state). It seems relatively insane to me that a city's infobox, the infobox for its national subdivision, and the infobox for its country each have dramatically different looks. The "new" look of the country infobox is (I think) the newest one, but it uses a ton of stuff that makes it difficult to reuse. Rather than .infobox-country th (and td), perhaps we could do a .infobox-geography th/td. My preference would really be for all infoboxes to use the vanilla infobox style, which seems to be the point of styles in the first place. Having these heavily customized infoboxes seems like a problem to me. -- 01:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Argh! border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 1em 0.4em; is very close to the existing look, but (sigh) IE doesn't support border-spacing. I guess your first suggestion of border-collapse: collapse; and padding set in a TH/TD style is the way to go. This doesn't achieve the 1em border, so the border lines for rows that have them will go edge to edge. I'm not sure how attached the Infobox Country folks are to the current look. BTW - does this strike you as a ridiculous waste of time (trying to rationalize the various geographical infoboxes)? Just curious. Thanks for the help - I'm still maintaining that I'm not a CSS expert. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: standard.js

I find your comments rather surprising. Do you mean to say that those pages exist for no real purpose? Ingoolemo talk 04:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

A user you unblocked

At Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Ip_Problem you explained that you unblocked the IP 68.113.77.49. The user claimed that they did not know who Locust was, but there appears to be a bit of evidence that they are indeed the same person (a possible attempt to circumvent the block?). I left a message on the administrator who originally indefinitely blocked Locust43 at User_talk:Tijuana_Brass#A_sockpuppet_of_a_user_you_blocked, but it appears Tijuana is on a Wikibreak. Cola2706 appears to be jumping back into the problems that got him blocked in the first place, as showed by the message I left Tijuana. So, I came here to ask if you could look over this and see what should be done. Thanks. Cowman109Talk 15:02, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I just looked through the IP's contributions, and this link confirms that they are indeed the same user. The user does seem to be trying to fix the problem, but they are being a tad disruptive in my opinion by lying about the unblock request and continuing the behavior that got them blocked in the first place. Cowman109Talk 15:08, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Delete

Template:Delete has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Wisden17 19:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

User:207.44.156.107

heh i atchually did try and acsses the server via http and recived no response, im guessing it was down at that time. still no harm done though. Im often finding when running through some unblock requests that ips have changed ownership over time and i use through scanning before asking an admin to unblock (i have specialst network admin's scripts to use) Benon 22:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Help! New user freaking out!

Hi there,

I'm completely new to Wikipedia and have been browsing many of the welcome-new-users/policies/general-info/copyright pages the last couple of.. hours - and, argh! Ok, I was checking out the images listed here: WP:CP.. and argghh, when I was looking at this page: contribution that possibly violates copyright (yes, I still need to learn how to include a link to an image without including the image itself!!), I accidentally clicked on the 'rev' link!

I'm panicking now, because I'm new and didn't mean to click there (but I know that clicking the link was wrong) and ahhh!!! :// Okay, I just wanted to let you know about it since you reported the copyright violation. I'll go now and see if I can revert it back.. to how it was.. before I clicked on it. (But eeeep, what about that three reverts rule?! Ahh, what if I'm too stupid to figure it out before I violate that one?! *panics some more*)

--Kaythekay 12:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Me again.

Uhhhmm, I don't dare do anything now, because I'm not sure how to revert it back to how it was before!

(Because I added a comment right after I'd clicked on the link! Would I have to click on the other 'rev' link - the one next to the user's second edit - to revert everything back?! Heeelp! And sorry for bothering you with this all, I just don't want to make even more mistakes! :/)

--Kaythekay 13:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Requesting "sprotect" on my talk page, User_talk:HarroSIN

Requesting "sprotect" on my talk page, User_talk:HarroSIN, due to anons leaving irrelevant comments. Thank You. --HarroSIN 02:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Css/HTML question

Hi - I'm not sure if there's a way to do this, but I thought if anyone might know you would. Various infoboxes have entries that really should wrap if the width computed by the rest of the entries warrants it. I've looked for some way to effectively say "don't use this entry's width in the width computation" but haven't found anything (seems like "width=0" should work, but it doesn't seem to). Anyway - if you know or can think of anything, please let me know. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

With Safari, I think the things you tried look the same as you see them in Firefox (sort of works, but affects the whole column, not just the one entry). What I'm looking for is logically the inverse of "white-space: nowrap", but it doesn't seem to exist. I tried wrapping the text in a span and a div with explicit widths, but this doesn't seem to work either. Oh well. Where this occurs today I've coded an embedded break so at my default font size the table columns have reasonable widths. This is clearly not an optimal solution, but I suspect won't be noticed by most people. Thanks for taking a look. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Hello CesarB or better: Oi CesarB! I have just written a deletion tag in the {u|Octavio Miamontes Vidal} that you just deleted. Let me explain better: Thus username is my own real name and I do not have any clue of why someone has created this usernaem with my name. You may verify that at the email address I gave. Do not think that there are many other Octavio Miramontes Vidal in the world...this is a unique name with no homonimes. Please delete the user page. Obrigado! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.248.7.200 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 6 July 2006

Obrigado Cesar, agora preciso sair. Amanha gostaria de contactar vc de novo para explicar melhor o caso e dar um jeito em issto. Voce pode entender que nao estou gostando muito de que exista meu nome verdadeiro como o nick de alguma outra persona que pode escreber cualquier bobaje usando o meu nome. Obrigado de novo e disculpa por o meu portugueis. Vc poderia verificar se as IPs minhas e as do usuario tem o mesmo padrao? Tal vez eu mesmo fiz a conta e nao lembro de isso. Poderia haber acontecido mas eu tenho meu propio user na wikipedia, entao nao faz sentido. Vc pode me contactar no email que deixe, eu sou fisico da UNAM no Mexico, casado con brasileira e visito Brasil todos os anhos. Tenho minho CV no Lattes, pode consultar. Disculpa de novo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.248.7.200 (talk • contribs) 00:07, 7 July 2006

The sandbox

Granted, but the anonymous users were editing it every ten seconds or so and when I re-added the heading, it got immediately removed again. Using the sandbot woudn't have helped much, I fear. I think that the one-minute protection was in order. - Mike Rosoft 15:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Your block on User:216.16.246.124

I noticed your block on the said IP. I understand that the IP is an open proxy, but this is the advised proxy server posted on Wikipedia:Advice to Tor users in China so that Chinese users can connect to Wikipedia. Indef blocking this proxy may prevent users from China to create accounts and/or editing. --WinHunter (talk) 16:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Oups.. my mistake. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. >< .. --WinHunter (talk) 16:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Browsers not reloading common.css

Hi - I've heard some folks have had to do a forced reload to get their browsers to know about some styles I recently (like a week ago) added to common.css. Any ideas what might be causing this? Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

The proxy servers are requested to only check with the origin servers after 31 days ($wgSquidMaxage). This means you can only be sure your changes have been propagated to all the squid servers after 31 days have passed. This is visible as the smaxage=2678400 on the import of Common.css, which corresponds to a HTTP Cache-control: s-maxage=2678400 header. --cesarb 19:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Any idea why this is set so long (I assume $wgSquidMaxage is something we control somehow)? 31 days means any change in common.css won't necessarily be visible to clients for this long (right?). This seems like an awfully long time. Is this a Brion/Jamesday or somebody like that thing? Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration

What is an arbitrate???--Sean gorter{mind a chat?} e@ CVU(UTC)

"Arbitrate" is actually a verb -- "to arbitrate," which essentially means "to decide." In the context of Wikipedia, it's sort of the "final stage" -- the Arbitration Committee have the ability to set policy that all users on Wikipedia have to follow. I suppose the easiest thing to compare them to would be Supreme Court justices -- matters involving people come up before them, and the Arbitration Committee first decides whether to hear it, and then makes a decision on the matter before them, the effects of which can reach down to all Wikipedia editors.
Sean, also, you need to change your signature. This is a little complicated to explain if you've not been around Wikipedia for a while, but right now, it's a "transclusion" -- you're essentially telling Wikipedia's computer servers to look inside the contents of another entry -- your User:Sean gorter/Signature page -- and paste it in. Because the servers have to do that every time a page is loaded where you've signed your name, it causes a lot of work for the servers. The way to solve this is to go to Special:Preferences. On that first page, you should see a box that says "Signature". Inside that box, paste your signature, which right now is:
[[User:Sean gorter|Sean gorter]]<sup>[[User talk:Sean gorter|{mind a chat?}]] [[User:Sean gorter/Esperanza|e@]] [[User:Sean gorter/Counter-Vandalism Unit|CVU]]</sup>([[User:Sean gorter|U]][[User talk:Sean gorter|T]][[Special:Contributions/Sean gorter|C]])
Then click the checkbox next to the words "Raw signature (no auto link; don't use templates or external links in this)", and click on the 'Save' button at the bottom of the page. If you want to get rid of your signature page after doing this, you can open up the page and type {{db-owner}}. — Mike (talk • contribs) 03:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

User Drowner

You have blocked this user as a suspected sockpuppet of Hogeye. He has sent an e-mail to the Unblock list claiming that he is not a sockpuppet. It seems that the main edits of concern were in relation to the Anarchism in the US article. Could you please advise of the situation with this user. Capitalistroadster 04:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

absolute css positioning for dots on maps

Hi - Do you know if there's any reason not to use absolute CSS positioning to put dots on locator maps (as is done by some geographical templates, I'm not sure of any current examples but template:Infobox U.S. City used to do this)? I've asked this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps#Locator dots with no response. And, BTW, while I'm here, do you know why the featured article star recently stopped working in classic skin? I can't find the change that did this (not template:Featured article or any change to common.css). Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I failed to see any mention of the dots in any discussion related to that deleted template; it looks like people either weren't aware of the feature, or the other template already had the feature and it got removed. As to the FA star, you forgot to look at MediaWiki:Standard.css; looks like the relevant style got commented out on purpose. --cesarb 13:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, not too many people seemed to be aware of this feature. There are a number of cities in Pennsylvania that use it, see [2]. There's also a template for cities in Ireland that still uses this technique, see Template:Ie citytown infobox. The question is whether you know of any technical issues with this approach (for example, any browser compatibility issues). I don't understand why I've gotten no response at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps#Locator dots. I'd think the folks that create maps would be all over this since using it would eliminate the need to create individual maps for every single place with an article.

I found standard.css, too (forget it was there, and not at classic.css [which doesn't exist]). Thanks for the reply. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Not a technical reason, but I have realized that not using the CSS positioning mechanism but rather using a specific map per place may be friendlier to Wikipedia:mirrors and forks. On the other hand, templates are getting so complex (with m:ParserFunctions, for example) that I suspect it's getting to the point that non-MediaWiki mirrors are having a hard time consuming alot of Wikipedia content. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

"Broken" talk pages

Are all those "broken" talk pages thanks to the db slave unsync earlier today? Titoxd(?!?) 03:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Simple English Wikipedia

Oi Cesar. Vejo que você é brasileiro também. Por acaso você não teria vontade de contribuir também no Simple English Wikipedia em artigos relacionados ao Brazil? Obrigado. --Paulistanum 21:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:RECALL

Oops, good semantic catch. I was severely overdoing the 'policy' tone of voice. Thanks. :) rootology (T) 21:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

The Minor Barnstar
This minor barnstar is presented in thanks for your creation of {{skiptotoctalk}}, which was a great idea and long overdue. Thanks! Jim (Talk) 10:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

div.tleft not working?

Hi - I made the change to MediaWiki:Standard.css we talked about a while ago, but it doesn't seem to work (see MediaWiki talk:Standard.css#Change to div.tleft. Do you have any ideas why it might not be working? Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Botty botty, here I comey!

When creating a bot on SourceForge, what should you tick on page 3?--Bleed Span  Who knows, you might be the victim too... because it's normal!

Halp!

I'm in need of expert advice, and because of this I decided to pick on you! (Must be your lucky day! <g>)
   re:

  1. {{unicode}}, incorporated into {{space}} whilst I was on vacation.
  2. So while cleaning up some commons category disconnects I used {{s}} which is 'space' defaulted to 3 (or 5?) characters... but got a squarebox (undef'd char, presumably) on MSIE-6 while using the commons version.
  3. Since one re-cat needed on the commons was for both 's' and 'space', I followed the {WikiPtmp} link to en.wikipedia's 'space' to see if there was a diff, found there is ... tons of unicodes added by Patrick as noted above,
  4. so decided to port the MSIE fixup templates, beginning with {unicode} to the commons...
  5. whereupon I find you tagged one {{Unicode fonts}} as deprecated... which seems to do nothing anyway,

So what the hell do I really need! (This cross-porting is usually simple, add a {{Commonstmp}} here, a {WikiPtmp} there, fix up any text, maybe do the same for a couple of other templates... and done.

The crux is I'm an old programmer with firm belief in self-documentation, and so Commons:template:unicode wants this do nothing template {{unicode fonts}}. So why isn't it showing it's 'talk contents' on our pages if it does anything at all, at all? Or was it's whole purpose to list the font sets in the order accessed? (This isn't editing, it's techy stuff I edit to get away from! <g>)

  1. In sum, did I just port something that won't work in the commons, if I equalize 'space' to Patricks version and if not, why not?
  2. What the hell is MediaWiki:Common.css anyway? (I hate scripts!!!)
  3. How does your deprecating something which seems to have done nothing get around the notice: 'Any changes to Monobook.css or Common.css should be first proposed to Wikipedia:Village Pump' embedded in said script of MediaWiki:Common.css.
  4. What happened to not confusing the editors per the talk in template talk:unicode?

So HALP! Which category:MSIE font fix templates have a half-life over two or more months!
    (seems reasonably necessary! <g>) regards // FrankB 00:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Best answer I've seen in a while!

So rest assured it helps. I'd copied the {{unicode fonts}} page after posting you, and iirc, had just finished porting the unicode template when I decided you were a likely tech-type target to pick on! <g> So you might say that edit generated the message. Thanks! // FrankB 08:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia e-mail -- unicode buggy???

re: changes to {{space}} using {{unicode}} ... seeing bugs. Please check your email ASAP. // FrankB 18:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Gaza

You are listed in the history page of List of concentration and internment camps as finishing woggly's unprotect. He has again protected it but left this message on my talk page.

By continuing to edit war on this article, I feel you have abused my trust. You should work towards reaching a compromise with the editors who oppose the paragraph you've been trying to add, rather than simply push it again and again, accusing them of political motives. Everybody has political motives - you do too. For personal reasons, I can't spend time on wikipedia in the upcoming weeks. You are welcome to seek the assistance of other administrators to unprotect the page, as long as they read the talk page and look at the history of the article, which I am sure any administrator will do before unprotecting, I will not consider it wheel-warring.

The recent edit I made was a substantial rework that took in to consideration all of the suggestions that were given in the previous discussion as to how I would get this content included in the article. Although the cite references doesn't seem to work properly in my sandbox (I hate cite.php), the new content is at User:Carbonate/Sandbox. I have tried to remove the POV and OR and focus on stating the facts that can be verified with references. But as I decided to stop reverting while the discussion continued (at least of a few hours), I don't think woggly read the new material.

I don't belive the current editor who is reverting the material IronDuke has made any vaild arguments against the material beyond "its anti-israeli". Can you please take a look and tell me what your impressions are?

Carbonate 06:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I am a little concerned about this lockdown. During the last one which was done because some 3rd party had filed an RfA, woggly reverted the content out before locking it. He has locked it again with the content out and the opposing partys don't discuss the issue when the content is out as they have "won". If and when the lock is released, what can be done to see a fair representation at having the content locked in? Without that, it appears that despite the notice at the top, the current version is endorsed... Carbonate 16:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Salvador de Bahia

Hello there. I'm coming to you because I see it was you who added the section about Brazil on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (settlements). Do you think you could take a moment and fix Salvador, Brazil, move the article to a more standard location? As far as I can see, it's the only Brazilian city currently in breach of that naming convention, but magic admin powers are needed to move it. And, from what I read on your user page, you're probably better qualified than me to decide whether it should be at Salvador de Bahia, Salvador, Bahia, or wherever. I'll be watching the article and solemnly promiss to fix all the redirects. Thanks, Bolivian Unicyclist 18:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Swift and efficient. Muito obrigado, Bolivian Unicyclist 02:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for reply, Some questions

Thanks for you reply! Now I can use SSL to edit. But, I have some questions to ask you. (maybe some were told on other pages, but I did't find it, and my English isn't good) Why proxy (Tor) users are blocked? What is the reason? Now maybe 1.3 billion Chinese have to use it to visit Wikipedia. And, using SSL is strangely slow! Opening one page maybe cost me (more than) 1 minute, if I make an edit, from opening the page, editing, to saving it, maybe cost me 5 minites! And it seems I can't see pictures while using SSL. So, please tell me in simple way: why block proxy (tor) users? (Please also copy the reply to zh:User talk:Flsxx.) Thank you very much!--Flsxx 08:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Integration Userbox

{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Integration/Userbox}}

You've helped out in the past. Add this to your profile if you'd care to: we must spread the word! Cwolfsheep 18:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia Dramatica

Out of curiosity, why did you block this?--Santahul 09:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Categories

The categorization system is having growing pains. There seem to be several different view about what our category system should be; a way to browse, an index of articles, a classification system, and/or a database search tool. Each of these views leads editors to different conclusions about how categories should be populated, and many conflicts result. To deal with these problems, Rick Block and I have been working on a proposal to add the ability to create category intersections. We think our proposal will address these problems and add some very useful new features. We are asking editors and developers concerned with categorizaton problems to take a look. We'd appreciate your feedback. Thanks. -- Samuel Wantman 05:54, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Hidden templates

Ahoy there. I'm an admin on the YPPedia, the wiki for the Yohoho! Puzzle Pirates community. I noticed your name when looking over MediaWiki talk:Monobook.js. We have attempted to replicate the show/hide functionality of the {{hidden}} template on our wiki but with no success. If you have the time and inclination, would you be able to look over our files and see what we have missed? Everything that we have already copied uses the same name as on the Wikipedia, so you should have no trouble finding (or not finding) the relevant files. Thanks in advance, we appreciate any help you can give us.--Fiddling Frog 06:48, 9 September 2006 (UTC) Thanks. I followed your advice and got it working. We really appreciate the assist.--Fiddling Frog 19:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Slammer worm

Thanks. I patched with SQL sever 3 and I still have the occurrences, but not as often. Maybe it's something else. Maybe something is making my CPU usage spike and thus giving me that high ping. But whatever it is, thanks for the tips.--Hellogoodsir 07:21, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

HELP!!! I don't know what I'm doing with my user page!

I am completely lost. Perhaps you could help a new user get his user page off the ground. Or, if you don't know as well as someone else, you could refer me to that person?

Send me an email at odinfromcentr2@aol.com with the subject line "Help is on the way" so I don't mistakenly delete it as spam. Oh, and I don't speak Portuguese.

Hoax?

Hi - Have you ever heard of Raul Julia-Levy, or his alleged grandfather Abraham Levy? The Abraham Levy article looks like a hoax to me, which makes me pretty suspicious of the Raul Julia-Levy article as well. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:12, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Different printable version of a template

Hi - Do you have any idea how to make Template:NavigationBar look different when "printable version" is selected? As it stands, the scrollable version is displayed which is not appropriate for printing. I could make it a non-printing style, but if there's some way to make the "white-space: nowrap" and "overflow: auto" conditional I think that'd be a better solution. I'm interested in any other comments you might have about this template as well. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 20:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to be dense but, for example, how do I make this template simply not show up on a printed article? It's currently class="toccolours". I've tried various ways to add "noprint" to this, and can't seem to find the magic incantaton that makes it work. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Bureaucratship

Why aren't you requesting for bureaucratship when you have over ten thousand edits? •Sean•gorter•(T) (P) 09:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Main Page

Hey, is it possible to add af:Tuisblad to the Main Page under "in other languages"? --Adriaan90 13:34, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks. I actually read that just after posting this. Sorry for wasting your time o.o --Adriaan90 20:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Re Whitespace, comments and esoteric templates

Hi cesarb,

...be very careful with what you put in comments; two dashes inside a comment close the comment, as comments on HTML are not delimited by <!-- and -->...

Thanks for repairing the template and for your explanation including the above. I find it ironic that the action I take in an effort to make the template more comprehensible to folk such as myself causes it to behave peculiarly!  Best wishes, David Kernow (talk) 01:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

...A further thought: If all the HTML table code were replaced with wiki table code, would that make the code insensitive to these dash issues...?  Thanks for any further advice, David (talk) 01:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

...Regarding the wiki table code versus HTML table code, I don't think it's possible; AFAIK, wiki table code does not iteract well with parser funcions or other conditional trickery...
And even if you could use wiki tables throughout, it's quite possible it would still need magic whitespace eating comments... --cesarb 04:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh well... it was an education. I imagine someone will now take exception to the comment-headings you had to amend – in fact, I may even remove them myself (but keep the gaps between sections in the manner you've explained) before too long!  Best wishes, David (talk) 05:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
...One other possibility: If a character other than the dash were used between the <!-- and --> comment markers – say ===== [Parameter name] ===== – would the problem still occur...?  Thanks for your expertise!  Yours, David (talk) 13:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I thought of that too, but I didn't want to risk using =...=. It would look like a section heading...
--cesarb 14:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Ack, I should've thought of that... If possible, though, I'd like to find a safe alternative (for the sake of future templates) so will probably experiment with this in a while. If I find something that seems to work, I'll let you know before I think of tinkering with the actual template again. Yours, David (talk) 15:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikicoded

What do you think – sufficiently insensitive...?  If so, I'll replace the {{Infobox Officeholder}} code accordingly. Yours, David (talk) 21:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks good. I also tested with a real example (Saddam Hussein ... and nothing seems to break.
--cesarb 22:04, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Glad all seems okay for you. Have now updated {{Infobox Officeholder}} and hope no problems will be reported... Thanks, David (talk) 22:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

underlined link

Hi there! You said there was a config option to prevent link underlining, but I can't find it. Could you please tell me which one it is? Or should I change my monobook.css after all? >Radiant< 23:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Ah, thanks. I was looking under "skin" and such, completely missed this one. >Radiant< 00:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the tags

I'm not sure which way I would get a fast reply so I'll just say it here:

Some other person tagged a pic from Angel Blade and labeled it pd-self. I made the screenshots myself from Angel Blade. So, which tag am I supposed to use? Let alone you already changed the tags. "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 04:06, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

ok, so what about this pic? looks like it just a screenshot (hence it not full-on clear): "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 22:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ayame_Fudo.png

Template:Nobr

Hi again cesarb,
In case you're interested, more of the rationale behind my renaming {{Nobr}} can be found here. Yours, David Kernow (talk) 06:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

sidewalk chalk

Dear Cesar,

What did we every do to you? Why did you take our great sidewalk chalk article down??????? What was wrong about it and why would you take down such a masterpiece! Im only semi serious but cmon that was some good stuff.


sincerly ,

the chalkers

Olá

Olá Cesar,

É bom encontrar um brasileiro aqui na en. Nunca te vi lá na wiki lusófona e acho que não fomos apresentados. Eu me chamo Raphael e participo do Projeto Subdivisões do Brasil lá e de outros projetos relacionados ao Brasil no Commons e no Source.

Venho aqui pedir a sua ajuda para remover as excessões que existem nas regras de nomenclatura para municípios brasileiros. Algumas dessas regras são aproveitadas em outros projetos e a atual convensão está gerando muitos problemas, principalmente no Commons.

Eu propus a renomeação de "Rio de Janeiro" e "São Paulo" (veja as discussões: 1 e 2) e também a alteração da regra atual (veja 3). Como foi você quem a criou e como eu não conheço nenhum outro usuário capaz de falar português nativo aqui eu peço a sua ajuda.

Muito obrigado,

Raphael.lorenzeto 14:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Copyright tag question

I have images of Bloodrayne, but I am unsure which copyright tag to use because:

Bloodrayne: the images I have, you see them in the guide in the charcter section

Bloodrayne 2: you see these after you beat the game. A section called the gallery shows images of the game. like the hi-res images, and the "building blocks" (parts of an image in the game, etc.) what copright tag should i use? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Angelofdeath275 (talk • contribs) 05:24, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

edit: sorry the 2nd one was ment to be Bloodrayne 2...I believe the "2" doesnt work correctly.....but I'm still unsure about the one from Bloodrayne, because you never see this specific pic, it kinda looks like the characters were posed like this for the pics. "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 23:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia category

I noticed after creating my template that I had a similar idea to yours: {{Wikipedia category}} (mine is {{Wikipediacat}}). I propose you to remplace yours by mine if you mind. 16@r 00:45, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes it's also a good idea. Actually I'm happy to see I'm not the first who have tried to propose these template messages (btw maybe we should categorise them in the Category:Category header templates). My {{wikipediacat}} was also mainly intended to be the beginning of a reflection on how to distinguish "normal categories" and "selfref categories", so now we should think to the organisation of these kind of templates. I mean establishing a well-defined overview and try to get feedback of other wikipedians. Boa noite :). 16@r 01:20, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Don't worry for the back door, even if you don't tell it publicly I think that introducing a new model by putting it on some pages is also a way to propose it. You're absolutely right about namespaces and namespaces categories. But unfortunately I asked to MediaWiki's developers if it would be possible to have multiple categories (one type of category for each namespace) but they told it would be to long to develop it (though it's a good idea) so they're not gonna implement it right now. However even if "Category:Wikipedia:" has benn abandoned long ago, the advantage on en.wikipedia is that categories for non-articles pages are well nammed ("Category:Wikipedia XXX" or "Category:Template XXX"). So now I propose you it to develop your templates in order to make them more visibles like mine. I will begin with {{template category}} and you could tell me what you think of it. 16@r 08:57, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Dixon Ticonderoga

Hi. Your tag of the Dixon Ticonderoga was a good one as it encouraged me to make some additions. Please take a look at the revision and remove the tag if you think is been brought up to speed. Happy New Year. ◄HouseOfScandal► 20:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Subpages of User:Example up for deletion

Hi CesarB. Since you are the original creator of the User:Example account, I thought I'd let you know that I have nominated several subpages in the user's userspace for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. The pages in question were not created by you, and have nothing to do with the original purpose of the account – see the nomination for details – but I thought I should notify you in case you wanted to comment. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any further questions. Gavia immer (u|t) 20:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Help

Hi Cesar, since youre an experient user and brazilian I ask help to resolve the dispute on Campeonato Brasileiro Série A. I provided sourced information that justify my editions (Flamengo is 5th times champion) but User:21JuL74 seems to ignore it ridicularizing the Wikipedia:Verifiability ruling their own sources and verifiability criteria. I'm currently engaged with him in revert war, already made my statement at Talk page and just received personal attacks. I ask your help if possible to resolve this. Thanks in advance. --Ragnarok Addict 20:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Cesar hope your mediation can help as asked by Ragnarok. Hope we can talk better than he did when asked for ediation in Mediation Cabal/2006-12-30 Campeonato BRasileiro Série A when he started war-reverting the mediators warnings (Natl1), calling the patroller a troll !!

Ragnarok after weeks of revert war againt many only recently produce sources that DO not justify his editions and immediately asked for protection over a page discussed and consensed since months. The rest I'll let you read the discussion page and the history of contributions... Regards 21JuL74 23:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

one more thing: you won't find Natl1 (patroller) warnings to Ragnarok of course as he did delete them ! You can find of course in his talk-page history page. talk about civil behaviour...

Example

Was it you who used the Example account? Kamope · talk · contributions 00:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Do not undo my comments

I have no idea who you are or why you pulled my comment from User_Talk:Jimbo_Wales but I do not see where you have any authority to undermine what I say. If you didn't like my comment, you should reply to it. If you found the image to be inappropriate then help me do something about it. I am an editor not unlike yourself, who is frustrated and tired because of that image. It does not belong on Wikipedia and I have exhausted all other options I know of in getting the issue noticed. -- jsa 15:24, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Cesar, I noticed this mini-edit war unfold on my watchlist. I suggest that if it continues, that you please send it to WP:ANI instead of reverting it yourself as a "WP:POINT image", I think it'd be better if more than one person felt that way, lest you be accused of something or other. – Chacor 15:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

History of Gibraltar

There is a banned user who is making repetitive edits, the template deters him and we get peace for a while. Before removing it you might explain your reasons better. --Gibnews 14:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

The reason is that it's confusing to have a protection template not matching the actual article's protection status. Why not simply ask for a real semi-protection instead? --cesarb 14:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
That one seems to work. (providing nobody deletes it) --Gibnews 16:34, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

New Nationalist Party

Thanks for your contribution to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Nationalist_Party page.

Sorry you didn't care for the large logo - I thought the bit of color lifted the page from otherwise being a bit drab.

I'm having a lot of difficulty with some other unknown political group who insist on placing incorrect and damaging comments on the page. I have written to the Chair of Mediation about the issue, but he's in California this week and probably won't respond 'til next week.

I would appreciate any assistance you can give to keep it at it's present 'neutral' settings.

all the best,

Graham

W4evw 21:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

User Link Spamming

Hi, I saw that you were online through DLog. I wonder if you would mind taking a look at User:209.221.8.226? He appears to be link spamming articles. I've reverted much of it, but think he may need a block to keep him from doing too much damage. Thanks! Philippe Beaudette 23:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Philippe Beaudette 23:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Grayson Walker

Please could you look at User:Cia123454321--Hunter365 17:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

 !

Cesar, I award you the Civility Barnstar in apprechiation of your great civilness in Wikipedi. Kamope·?·! Sign! 22:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Cesar, I award you the Civility Barnstar in apprechiation of your great civilness in Wikipedi. Kamope·?·! Sign! 22:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)



Thank you

.. for removing the troll's traces from my talk page. ---Sluzzelin 21:11, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Oops

Yeah (beats himself for hitting save and moving on to something else) -- Tawker 04:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Notice of arbitration case

By direction of Jimbo Wales, the matter of the Daniel Brandt deletion wheel war has been referred to the Arbitration Committee. An arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Daniel Brandt deletion wheel war and you have been named as a party. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Daniel Brandt deletion wheel war/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Daniel Brandt deletion wheel war/Workshop. This notice is given by a Clerk on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. Newyorkbrad 23:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

BioValley

Please do not remove the content about BioValley again. BioValley is an international trademark and is copyrighted. You have been reported to wikipedia and the necessary documentation confirming your actions has been presented. Deleting BioValley content again will bar you from being able to change the information in the future and limit your abilit to participate through wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jerrynjoe (talk • contribs) 14:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

Cascading protection

Thanks for that :) Glen 03:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The White Rose Society (website)

Oops - sorry about that. Good catch. RJASE1 Talk 19:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Archiving

It would be best (for me) if Feb 21st could stay on all of the desks, or that all of the desks have the 21st removed - all I'm concerned about is having the same number of days on each desk so that I don't confuse the bot when it comes back online :). Thanks, Martinp23 21:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Example

Why did you create User:Example? - User:Patricknoddy/sig 12:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Reason for reverting talk

I was wondering what was the reason why you were reverting talk on my talk page. --Kukini hablame aqui 19:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha. Although the issue of what is North America is an interesting one. I note that there are very distinct POVs on this issue. Kukini hablame aqui 19:47, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

North America

Thanks for the advice. However, please note that the AfD nominator editor (Corticipia), asked for comments and votes in the articles Canada and United States. Have you done something about this? It is important to note that the Americas as a single continent is a model taught in Latin America and some parts of Europe and Asia, so, it is important that Latin voters know about this issue and express their free vote. AlexCovarrubias ( Let's talk! ) 15:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

You are also obviously pushing a POV in this, since you say that Canada and US are related to the article, and Mexico? Because you reverted my comment in Mexico. AlexCovarrubias ( Let's talk! ) 17:33, 5 March 2007 (UTC)