Talk:Certified first responder

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Are there certified first responders outside the United States? If this is a US term only, this fact should be mentioned in the very first paragraph. THe article itself is interesting. <KF> 21:29, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The term first responder is used in much of the United States. I first heard the term certified first responder in reference to the East Coast where volunteer services are more often used, but I've also seen references to its use in the UK, and a UK contributor to the EMS article let it slide without comment. <clarka> 13:32 2 Mar 2004 (PST)

Thanks! <KF> 21:41, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] CFR and EMT-B

Hello,

can someone tell a poor french boy whether there is a difference between a CFR and an EMT-B? I read that "The first responder training is intended to fill the gap between First Aid and EMT-Basic", but which are these differences?

Cdang 13:06, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)


This varies from state to state in the USA. In NJ, the only procedure that EMTs are permitted to do that CFRs are not is to apply a particular type of splint to a femur fracture. The real difference is that EMTs have much more background training than CFRs and are more prepared to recognize signs and symptoms. One must be an EMT to be in charge of an ambulance crew, although a CFR can be part of the crew. CFRs are subordinate to all higher medical authorities present, including EMTs. EMTs almost always have more experience than CFRs. EMTs are required to continue their education by a certain number of points worth of classes every year. CFRs must take a refresher course and pass a test every two years. This makes it much easier to continue as a CFR than as an EMT.PyroNemisis 20:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] France

This starts off with US DOT, then we have a big section on France. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to have that in the equivalent article on fr.wikipedia? --Gadget850 04:16, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

On fr:, you might find things at fr:secourisme; the specific French part is developped in fr:Secourisme en France.
cdang|write me 16:20, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I read this again and think I might have misunderstood. Fr.wikipedia means that the language is franch, not that it is related to french stuff. Thus, you will get information about US CFR on fr, and you will have either information about french CFR on en.
The question is: is the "certified first responder" term specific to some countries, and if so, what is the generic term for the equivalent in other countries ?
cdang|write me 15:23, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

"Certified First Responder" is a legal term in the USA. A person who is a CFR has legal rights and responsibilities. The rights include some protection from being sued under "Good Samaritan Laws". The responsibilities include a duty to act which means under certain legal conditions a CFR must assist a victim. To be a CFR, one must be trained, pass an exam and be certified as a first responder by an accredited agency.PyroNemisis 20:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nasopharyngeal Airway

This technique is no longer taught in most if not all first responder courses. Mike (T C) 05:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Outside the U.S.

The American Red Cross conducts a course titled "Emergency Response" that fits this definition.

...advanced first aid (as taught by the Red Cross) ...

...associations, including the French Red cross, ...

Slight bias IMHO :-/ If there is no objection, May we investigate and add other providers ? exit2dos2000 14:46, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oral Glucose and Activated Charcoal

At this point, the First Responders in my unit and myself are trained to administer Activated Charcoal and Oral Glucose. We are also trained to 'assist' with a varying amount of other things which would normally be beyond our certifications. For instance, if a patient is not quite conscious to administer EPI himself, we can place the auto injector in his hand, hold his hand with him, and administer it under the pretense of assisting him. However, we would not be able to do this to a patient who we suspected had anaphylaxis who was unconscious, we would need to wait for and EMT-B or other higher certification to arrive while attempting to do the best we could to maintain BLS. To my knowledge, none of CFRs in our unit have had the additional classes the article states for the ability to administer it ourselves. Kotetsu131 00:55, February 20 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed globalize tag

The article lists the CFR in four countries now and has extensive info on some, so it's not US centric anymore. Change if you disagree. Fr33kMan (talk) 03:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)