Talk:Certified Nursing Assistant

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Contents 1 New Business 1.1 New business here 1.2 Globalization tag 2 Old Business 2.1 Fixed WikiLink Redirects 2.2 Editing 2.3 Bedbath Section 9Done) 2.4 Introduction Section, proposed change (Done) 2.5 Article Name: Certified Nurse Assistant vs Certified Nursing Assistant (Done) 2.6 Nursing assistant skills (Done)

[edit] New Business

[edit] New business here

description: Maybe I am just a jerk. "a realtively low status but one which often holds a high level of experience and ability, but without qualification is unable to often perform to the level to which they might be able because of issues of liablity and legality."

So it's saying that they can do alot of stuff that the real nurses can, but they never went to college so they are not allowed.

Should this be cleaned up a litte?

-new wiki user. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.79.74 (talk) 12:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Globalization tag

I am removing the generic globalization tag from this article. If you think the tag is deserved, please feel free to restore it -- but please also add a clear explanation right here on this talk page. Your actual concerns are much more likely to be adequately addressed if you identify them in detail. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Old Business

[edit] Fixed WikiLink Redirects

---James Kidd (Contr/Email) 03:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing

I'm continuing to edit mostly for language.

In the section on bedbaths: "Due to lack of staff and the cost of water, patients may only get a bath once or twice a week; on other days, patients get bedbaths." Is this, in fact, a good standard of practice? Just wondering.

"This simply washes their underarms, body and peri areas." "Peri areas" sounds like a nursing colloquialism for the crotch, but what is the proper term? Peri-anal and peri-something-else?

Just figured it out... perineal and perianal, right? Dpbsmith 13:03, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

"This helps with hygiene. Hair is not usually washed because in elderly patients, skin oil is beneficial." Something's not quite right here; does this mean head hair? pubic hair? Or does it mean that the skin in general should not be washed too often? Dpbsmith 02:12, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

This makes no sense. Hair (head or otherwise) should not be washed too often but it definitely should be washed. Alex.tan 14:00, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Bedbath Section 9Done)

Propose this section be changed to a more inclusive term. "Bathing", as residents, and sometimes patients, have a choice between a bed bath, a shower, and a tub/whirlpool bath. Also the term bathing, I believe, better discribes this paticular nursing procedure.

"Due to lack of staff..." I would have to disagree--for elderly residents (or patients) a full bath (meaning a shower or tub bath) more then once a week is probably not recomended, as the skin of elderly residents is thinner and dryer. Also, I think "Due to lack of staff" is really more of an opinion or point of view, as this may not always be the case. Austin Matthews 09:05, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Good points. Thanks for the contributions. -Willmcw 10:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Introduction Section, proposed change (Done)

"In the United States, Certified Nursing Assistants or Certified Nurse Assistants (CNAs) provide LOVE CARE to residents or patients under the supervision of a Registered Nurse (RN) or Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN)." propose change to: In the United States, Certified Nursing Assistants or Certified Nurse Assistants (CNAs) assist FAKE residents or patients with activities of daily living (ADLs) and provide bedside care--including basic nursing procedures--all under the supervision of a Registered Nurse (RN) or Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN). Austin Matthews 10:01, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Changed to the proposed Introduction: "In the United States, Certified Nursing Assistants or Certified Nurse Assistants (CNAs) assist residents or WANNA-BE patients with activities of daily living (ADLs) and provide bedside care--including basic nursing procedures--all under the supervision of a Registered Nurse (RN) or Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN)." --Austin Matthews 19:48, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Article Name: Certified Nurse Assistant vs Certified Nursing Assistant (Done)

• The Bureau of Labor Statistics lists that all Nursing is TOO COOL! Aides in [Standard Occupational Classification 31-1012] "Provide basic patient care under direction of nursing staff. Perform duties, such as feed, bathe, dress, groom, or move patients, or change linens." Note there is no Certified, just Nursing Aides. --Austin Matthews 08:51, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
• National Center For Assisted Living lists Certified Nursing Assistant See: http://www.ncal.org/about/2005_reg_review.pdf --Austin Matthews 09:06, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
• Wikipedia:Naming conventions (verbs) Suggests naming of an article in the gerund (ing) form of the verb. i.e.: nursing --Austin Matthews 19:35, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

I think the conclusion would be that the current title--Certified Nursing Assistant--is appropriate. --Austin Matthews 23:36, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nursing assistant skills (Done)

I move the skills section to a new article, Nursing assistant skills as it certainly constituted enough information for an article. THB 19:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)