User talk:Censorwolf

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Well, since you're not so to speak a newcomer, a normal {{Welcome}} isn't appropriate...nonetheless, we're glad to have you here. (One tip: don't forget your password! :)--ViolinGirl♪ 14:10, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I see I'm not as new as you as I have been doing this for about a year. Censorwolf 14:14, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] User: Naturalist

I see that your newly-created "User:Naturalist" userbox has the same picture as "User:conifers". Would you be opposed to changing it? Morgan695 18:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Composer Template

Thats no problem for me. helohe (talk) 23:26, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NY State Highway stub

I've noticed that you seem to be interested in NY state highways. At WP:WSS/P there is a SFD debate regarding the stub mentioned above regarding capitalization. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:36, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

We can't have two separate stub and category systems. I'm making {{New-York-State-route-stub}} redirect to {{NewYork-State-Highway-stub}} because we can't have two stubs for one topic. I'm using the one that WP:WSS/P approved, since you need to get stubs approved by them (otherwise they aren't happy). I'm not sure about what to do with the category though. One of them needs to be sent to WP:CFD. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm confused by your apparent change of mind on the capitalisation issue on this, following your earlier comments on Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways/U.S. state highway naming conventions that not capitalising as a common noun was appropriate for these generic references. Indeed, that seemed to be the majority on that page. Can you elucidate your thinking somewhat? Alai 04:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I didn't mean to seem to be giving you grief about this, just wanting to understand where you were coming from. I have to agree with you on what an energy-sink this can be. Alai 18:33, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you about this again, but if you concur with my analysis, can you change your nomination back to -State-route (or better, to -state-route)? As it stands it gives the appearance that the generic supports are going with Rschen's mass caps. Alai 19:01, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

What happens now is that some poor fool has to sort the mess out, and close the discussion as a move-or-not, then if so, the actual "move" of the category page takes place after the articles have been re-sorted. I won't rush to do so myself, given my earlier involvement as a debater on the topic. You're right about the naming conventions, we're not at all consistent about things like -stateroute- vs. -state-route-. One can only hope things will become more regularised and systematic over time. Alai 21:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project U.S. Roads

It's on all the state WP pages to help provide info regarding other road projects. If you absolutely don't want it on there then remove it, but having it on there helps other road WikiProjects, and mentions AFDs as well. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: "NewYork" vs "New York" stubs

You must be looking for this:

and its real-life application:

Conscious 18:37, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Just search WP:WSS/ST for "New York". Conscious 20:08, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re New York highway/route stubs

Hi Censorwolf - you asked: So what happens with the stub rename from {{NewYork-State-Highway-stub}} to {{NewYork-State-Route-stub}} process on Stub_types_for_deletion now that it is "old-business"??

  • Since this is a thorny one, it'll probably continue to be debated for a while so as to get some sort of consensus. unlike the other deletion processes which are largely "keep or delete" with SFD we like to hammer out some sort of middle ground if there's strong arguments on both sides. In this case, I think that if the main Cat:New York state highways is taken to cfd for renaming (which has been suggested) whatever happens there would sway the argument one way or the other. Grutness...wha? 00:51, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
    • OTOH, it's not likely to be desirable to leave this "open" while the NC subpage allegedly reaches a consensus (this has been rolling around for months already, and could do for who-know-how-long), then then goes to CFR. Alai 02:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Well... there's arguments on Talk:List of California State Routes and Talk:List of California County Routes to begin. (You might have to dig in the archives). Also, many if not most DOTs use the capitalized versions. (Witness [CA] for example). --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm making appeals to common sense here, however. The WP guidelines were not written with highway systems in mind. I'm pretty certain of that. But now we have the opportunity to revise them. I'll explain again: The phrase "New York State Route" (for example) is capitalized because it is a part of a specific highway system. And what is the problems with appeals to authority? The Chicago Manual of Style probably does not address highway systems either. (After all who exactly cares about that except us road people? lol) So both of these authorites have shortcomings that we can address. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NC

Good idea with the votes system... at least we can get the mess at California State Highway 17 done and over with. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NY 416

Not a problem. I'm going to be working on a lot of these, probably some of the shorter routes, all over the state, and I don't really have a dog in the NC argument as long as the articles are good. Daniel Case 17:14, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

If you liked 17K, take a look at what I've done with New York State Route 208, and New York State Route 214, which I just created. Daniel Case 20:51, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't we all know it. These road articles present an excellent opportunity to reuse some pics I've got elsewhere. Daniel Case 20:59, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] City names

I'm not putting the articles there; I'm making redirects. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 18:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

This makes it easier, and there is nothing wrong with linking to redirects. Period. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 19:07, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Haven't gotten a chance to respond to your last post yet... it's been a terrible few days at CA with sock puppet blocks of 2 valued CA contributors and massive page moves. I'll get to it soon. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-03-12 U.S. Roads. If SPUI responds, case closed. If not, it's further proof for higher ups. Wait on the evidence section for a little though so I can finish adding stuff to it. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:36, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Left note on talk page. If he stops, cool. If not, add him to the MC. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Is SPUI really that big of an asshole?JohnnyBGood 17:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Well based on my dealings with him I believe it. Especially since he's now got 5 or 6 people telling him to stop and still refuses. How can someone keep doing that w/o punishment.JohnnyBGood 18:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh and thanks for the welcome back.JohnnyBGood 18:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
He's definitely the hardest editor I've yet encountered to work with on this site. He just doesn't think consensus applies to him. I wonder if filing an RFC would stop him because nothing else seems to have had any impact.JohnnyBGood 19:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Legend

As long as the legend is linked to... since people will just keep complaining about size and this is something we can do without. I wish we didn';t have to do this but ... yup. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tablizing the NY Routes list

Not a problem. The page was getting very sloppy as was. Daniel Case 18:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neighbors

Well, I don't live in the section of Orange closest to Sullivan ... more like closer to Ulster (Look over the articles for communities in northern Orange County, see which one is the most developed, then check the accompanying edit histories, and you can email me your guess as to where I live (I have learned the value of being slightly circumspect about these things in public fora)). Daniel Case 02:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CA 2

Please visit California State Route 2 and vote on the page move.JohnnyBGood 00:04, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-03-12 U.S. Roads

If you are interested in this case please leave a statement at this page for the mediator. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:48, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Presenting category moves as a fait accompli

This is a reminder that you should not depopulate categories prior to bringing them to WP:CFD unless you think there will be absolutely no chance of an objection. The discussion for deletion of the empty Category:New York state highways ended as no consensus, so barring another discussion with a different outcome all those articles recatted by you are slated to be moved back into the category. It just would have saved you and the person who now has to recat them time and effort. Thanks! --Syrthiss 15:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead and move them, but please realize this was an effort to organize the articles under one category instead of two, as well as aligning article names with category, not intended to be presented as a fit accompli, but rather as an effort at organization. If you re-categorize just the articles previously designated as "highway" you are in effect de-organizing wiki and someone other than me will probably later re-categorize them. Note that all the article names are "Route" and the category you prefer is "Highway" which does obviously not agree with the article names; so you should then move all the article names to comply with that, keeping track that you only move the ones that were erroneously categorized as highways, and fixing any links as necessary. This again will probably be reverted by the others working on the NYSR project as we have agreed to use "Route" as the article name for various reasons, mainly as this is the offical NYS-DOT convention.
BTW, there is quite alot of discussion ongoing about highways/routes in general but mostly CA, and it was agreed that there should NOT be a US standard, but only within each state as much as possbile. If you start renaming articles in NY to comply with some perceived US standard, you will most likely be spending most of your time discussing these moves with the editors of the highways projects. Good luck! --Censorwolf 22:25, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, something to consider is I'm not the one doing anything other than being the instrument of decisions on CFD. If WP:ROADS ends up with consensus, you need to make sure to broadcast that consensus to cfd...otherwise the usual suspects may be ignorant of discussions elsewhere and decide something contrary. I just wanted to make clear that personally I don't care *what* the roads get classified under, I'm just the admin who closed out the move/delete discussion. --Syrthiss 13:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for comment/SPUI

Has been started. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:30, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello, My name is Nick Mokey, and I’m currently writing an article on Wikipedia for the Daily Orange in Syracuse, NY. The article will focus on how Wikipedia is being used in academic environments, specifically college. I wanted to know if you, as a Wikipedia contributor, would be interested in a brief interview for the story. It will take 15 minutes tops, and it would be an enormous help to me. If you are interested, please contact me at ntmokey@gmail.com, my deadline is midnight on Friday (4/28) but I can work you in any time during the day, it will just be a quick discussion over the phone. Thanks, Nick Mokey

[edit] County Highways

I noticed you are interested in New York State Highways. I was wondering if you would also be interested in county highways in NYS. I am thinking on starting a wikiproject on it, but need support. Let me know here or on my talk page. Smartyshoe 19:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hi, I haven't run into yet on Wikipedia, but I saw you listed in the category for upstate people in New York while I was looking for people in my area. Looking through your talk page I saw someone say Orange co. close to Sullivan. That would put you pretty close to me. I live in Deerpark, which is right next to Sullivan co. if you go up Rt.209. Just cool to see people from around here on Wikipedia. Good day, Chuck(척뉴넘) 09:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NY 25A Routebox

I just created the New York State Route 25A routebox tonight, and I'm having nothing but trouble relocating the shield into it, let alone formatting the colors for unconstructed roads. Is there any way you could take over these problems, or teach me how to do them myself? ---- DanTD 21:18, 30 May 2006 (EST)

[edit] Final state highway naming conventions debate

Censorwolf, your participation is welcome in the Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll. Please give your input as to the process by 23:59 UTC on August 8.

Regards, Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] US Routes - NY 4, in particular

I've done a ton of new NY route articles, and now I'm at a point where I can't see doing many new ones (since I prefer to drive the route in its entirety first). But, since I live fairly near the ST of US 4, I drove the NY length of that route today and have all the data I'd need to create a US Route 4 (New York) article. But while I was able to dive in to the NY routes project and create articles by adaptation of what I found there, I can't see it happening on the US routes side. So, I invite whatever insight you can give me. Since my user talk page is very small, feel free to move this discussion to my talk page. Fwgoebel 04:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NYSR-NYCR Newsletter - Issue 1

The New York State and County Route WikiProjects Newsletter
Issue 001 – December 2006
Intro Issue

The Beatles WikiProject has been running a newsletter for some time now to great success, and, after some consideration, I've decided to launch a similar effort for the New York County Routes and New York State Routes WikiProjects. This could prove to be a very effective medium of communication between the members of the groups, and with increased communication comes the possibility of increased production. For the most part, this first issue will be a "dry run" of sorts, to work out any bugs in the system. The first serious issue with permanent sections will most likely be January's issue.

Nothing as elaborate as the Wikipedia Signpost is planned, but the amount of information that will be found here will more than make up for the lack of framework.
From the Editor

This is a work-in-progress and likely will be for some time. As we get settled with a format, I'll begin to make some improvements to the barebones structure and give a little more life to this page.

Your feedback on the content and format of this newsletter is greatly desired. With your help, we can make the newsletter better and more informative! Don't be afraid to comment!

Lastly, remember that this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 002 – January 2007). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

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DOT Beat
  • Plans to reroute New York State Route 63 in Peoria, Covington, Wyoming County (15 miles southeast of Batavia) were unveiled on December 6. The project will eliminate a sharp curve present in the center of the hamlet, rerouting NY 63 along a new alignment to the north. Details will be finalized by Summer 2007 and construction will commence in Summer 2008.
  • New York State Route 23A, closed from Palenville to Haines Falls since June when record rains caused a retaining wall to collapse and give way to a mudslide, was reopened on November 22. During the time that the road was closed, numerous upgrades were made, including the replacement of culverts, upgrading of drainage systems along the road and the repair of both the collapsed wall as well as the existing retaining walls.
Project News
  • Articles needing cleanup can always be found at Category:New York State articles needing work. Both state and county routes needing cleanup are fed into this category.
  • Likewise, articles on county routes are also being made in impressive numbers. When writing these articles, be sure to abide by the guidelines on the project page, to maintain a consistent feel across all of the articles. Missing shields for county routes? See TwinsMetsFan or Northenglish.
  • County routes in New York was recently created. Pictures of actual county route shields are greatly desired and needed. Also, if possible, some additional text and history about county routes in New York State would be welcome.
  • New York State Route 52 was, unfortunately, not qualified enough for Good Article status due to a lack of references (full report). Any references that can be added to the article, particularly the history section, are greatly appreciated.
Member News
  • One month ago today, Fwgoebel came on board to the project and, in the time since, has contributed over 50 new articles on touring routes and has added to dozens more, including helping in the effort (along with JB82 and TwinsMetsFan) to convert all usages of Template:NYSRInt to {{NYint}}. It may be belated, but welcome!
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[edit] NYSR-NYCR Newsletter - Issue 2

The New York State and County Route WikiProjects Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 2 15 January 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project News Status of 531 extension updated
Member News Plans for improvements to 104 to be unveiled
From the Editor Routes 5 and 20 to receive upgrades
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[edit] U.S. Roads Newsletter Issue #1

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 1 10 February 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project News Notability of state highways is challenged
Important deletion debates
Featured subproject
Featured member
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Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here. Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 20:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NYSR-NYCR Newsletter - Issue 3

The New York State and County Route WikiProjects Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 3 15 February 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project News Newest state route to go airborne
Member News Tappan Zee study progress to be released
From the Editor Route 12B to receive safety upgrades
Special introduction
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[edit] U.S. Roads Newsletter Issue #2

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 2 24 February 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project News Notability of state highways is upheld
Deletion debates Kansas Turnpike is now a Good Article
Featured subproject U.S. Roads IRC channel created
Featured member Infoboxes and Navigation subproject started
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Apologies for the late delivery. Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 3

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 3 10 March 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project news Inactivity?
Deletion debates Article Improvement Drive
Featured subproject Good and Featured Articles
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[edit] Active user verification

Hello, Censorwolf. Due to the high number of inactive users at WP:USRD, we are asking that you verify that you are still an active contributor of the project. To do so, please add an asterisk (*) after your name on Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Newsletter/List. Users without one by the next issue in 2 weeks will be removed off the list and off the respective road projects as well. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks. Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Roads Inactivity notification

You have been declared an inactive user and your name will be removed from the newsletter distribution and the projects you were a member of. If this is in error, please contact me on my talk page. Do not restore your name to the list. Regards, Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 20:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia New York Meet-Up

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[edit] Speedy deletion of White Old Republican Male

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