Talk:Central heating

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ƒThis is a very poor article, has almost no real information in it and what info there is is not related to central heating! Might I suggest it is worth deleting?

Need[[Italic text]]s diagrams of both pipe layout and wiring layout for each domestic system, including conventional, combination etc., relating to domestic, industrial etc. It is not poor you're just boring.Italic text== Removal of thermostat images ==

I am removing the two photo images of a Honeywell thermostat because they have very little connection to the context of this article. I think that they could perhaps be better used in Thermostat article. - mbeychok 16:10, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Added a Cleanup-Rewrite tag

This article needs a major rewrite for the following reasons:

  • The arrangement of sections is very poor and there are a number of poor word choices and poor writing. For example, the "History section" should be right after the lead-in section. As another example, there are a number of inappropriate capitalizations used in the middle of sentences.
  • The "Sealed system" section is completely incomprehensible. It needs to explain how such a system works and why it is used. I have no clue as to what is meant by a "Sealed system".
  • There is too much focus on central heating system practices in the UK.
  • There is no mention at all of steam central heating systems.
  • As pointed out by another commenter above, the article needs some diagrams or flow sheets explaining how the various systems work.

- mbeychok 19:03, 29 June 2006 (UTC) which would classify it to be gay that you dont actually get heat from it Bold text

i agree with you completely on this. i almost added this tag yesterday. what do you think would make a good outline? i think we still need the history section...its the closest thing to actual content we have here. i also think we need some section related to energy conservation. regards Anlace 20:18, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Anlace, the article is considerably improved now!! It still has a few bits I don't understand:
  • Quote: "These outlets could be hot water taps, appliances such as a washing machine or dishwasher, a gravity fed shower or a powered shower: a type of shower that pumps water but does not heat it." What do you mean by a shower that pumps water but does'nt heat the water? Does the shower only provide cold water? Did you mean a shower that is supplied with pumped water? Also, I don't understand a "gravity-fed shower". Assuming the home or the central system is supplied with water from a city water main, then the water is at the pressure provided by that water main which is more than adequate for pressure-feeding a shower. To me, a gravity-fed shower would be one that is supplied from an un-pressured, elevated water tank in the home. These two items need detailed explanations. Personally, I would simply end the above quote like this: "... such as a washing machine, or dishwasher, or a shower." and I would not mention "gravity-fed" or a "powered shower".
  • The section entitled "Sealed System" still doesn't explain how the sealed water is used for heating. In my residence for example, hot water from our gas-fired hot water heater circulates through a small coil located within the walls of our residence and then back to the hot water heater. A fan blows air across that coil (which heats the air and cools the water), and the hot air is then routed through ductwork to heat each room in our residence. Is that how the sealed system also works? And what happens if the compressed gas in the pressure vessel leaks out and it can no longer act upon the diaphragm to pressurize the sealed water system? Also, I assume that the diaphragm is flexible ... is that correct?
Sorry to be so long-winded, but if I don't understand or mis-interpret the above items, then many others will do so also. Thanks again for your prompt help. - mbeychok 05:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thanks for the kind words as to my rewrite, but a major point of misunderstanding exists as to the origin of the passages you critique above (and i totally agree with the points you ve made): I didnt write any of the original article and contributed nothing to the two sections you criticize above other than some simple copy edit. As to your first discussion on powered shower, i am in fact familiar with this device. it is primarily used in the UK and other parts of Europe where water pressure to upper stories is insufficient. i adopted your easy fix and just deleted this topic. as to your second point on sealed systems, i know nothing on this subject. hopefully someone will step forward. best regards Anlace 05:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Mbeychok observed well over a year ago that there was no discussion of steam heating systems. There still isn't. Jm546 20:10, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links

I am deleting some of the links because the description of the link does not match (or no longer matches) the page to which the link directs.

The British gas website (house.co.uk central heating)is NOT providing advice, it is more of a catalogue of parts and services available from British Gas.

'Advice on Central Heating' just directs me to an installer's advertisment. There is no advice given.

'Advice on Boilers' is 'under construction', though the page tells me 'we sell to public and trade'.

Cannot see that these links are anything other than advertising. Afraid I'm not able to add useful links for these topics at present.

129.12.200.49 20:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Popularity

Why does that person get a poem? Can I re-direct it to my poem?

I am going to delete that section now. OMGsplosion 18:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confused

"In the UK, in much of northern Europe and in urban portions of Russia, where people seldom require air-conditioning in homes due to the temperate climate, most new housing comes with central heating installed" What does the need for air conditioning, or lack thereof, have to do with whether or not central heating is installed? They aren't mutually exclusive. If there is a reason, it should be added by someone who knows.. --67.165.6.76 08:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)put it this way itsgay