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This article was nominated for deletion on 16 June 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
This article does not cite sources because it is largely original work, based upon over 20 years of informal research by a native speaker of the the Central Pennsylvania dialect, who studies languages and dialects when not practicing law. vonratt68.83.178.70 23:40, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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- That is a problem when it comes to wikipedia policy because Wikipedia:No original research states that "Wikipedia is not the place for original research." and continues further saying "Citing sources and avoiding original research are inextricably linked: the only way to demonstrate that you are not doing original research is to cite reliable sources..." Unless this article can be proven as not being original research, then it does not belong on Wikipedia. MBob 23:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I think this article should be kept because of it's vital importance and inherent curiosity for readers. I found this to be very intresting but I think wide revisions need to be done along with back up citing if possible.Bronayur 04:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Agreed. My family is of central Pennsylvanian origin and the accent as described is, insofar as I remember, extremely accurate.--Caliga10 22:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
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- I live in Juniata County, and I think that most points in this article are fairly accurate. I disagree with one point, but I have not taken the liberty to edit it myself, since I have no way of backing it up with any formal citations. I agree with the comments above...that the article should remain on Wikipedia because it is interesting and important. The way communications have changed with the internet, tv, email, etc, our local dialects and ways of speaking are starting to melt together. It would be nice to preserve a record of the dialects that may not be present in the future, or may not necessarily be know in Central PA only.--Gypsywalker 12:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
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- I asked my father, who is a native of this region, to read this article and he also agrees that it is mostly accurate. He did suggest some additions which I'll try to fold into the article.--Caliga10 13:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
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- I am from this area and some of my relatives still live there. Our wide flung family has circulated this article amongst ourselves and agree that most of it sounds exactly like local people speak. Although Wikipedia is not the place for original research, not everything that has been researched has been published in journals. There has been much work on things Pennsylvanian in the past 75 years but this work seems often to have been chronicled only in unpublished MSC work and the like, or in places that are difficult to find. For example, I remember reading of the tonal qualities of the Central PA dialect which are a rising inflection at the end of sentences, even if they are not questions. This is widely enough known that I have been identified as a Central Pennsylvanian by a linguist on the basis of my residual rising inflection, even though my accent has changed very much over my years away. I have no way to track down the published references to this tonal quality, however. For what it is worth, I remain unable to pronounce "eagle" after living away for almost 40 years. parsnip13
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- Ok i am from Blair county Pennsylvania. Almost everything in this article is very accurate. I notice alot of these accents in the older generations. I have heard everything listed on this page spoken in life at school, home, or work. Everything is accurate and this article should not be deleted.
- Seems that if the article is accurate, there's no need for original research as it's common knowledge of those who would know. If there's no objection outside of the 'original research' objection, it should be maintained. If there are extraneous objections to it, or grammar objections to the article itself, then those should be dealt with inside the article. LH 08:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- You've got to keep this!!! I grew up in Alexandria and never knew anyone there had an accent until I moved away for too many years. Upon returning after many years, I could then hear the accent. This article has a LOT of truth in it. I may decide to quibble with a few items but by and large, it should definitely be kept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.194.246.78 (talk) 01:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
