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[edit] Structure of the article

I propose to model this article about a province to another articles about states and provinces in Wikipedia (e.g. British Columbia, Queensland, and Virginia). BTW I wonder whether there will be some kind of template about this ... Anywaya, the topics dealt which will be dealt with are roughly:

  1. Geography
    1. Administrative division
  2. History
  3. Demographics
  4. Culture and language
  5. Politics
  6. Economy
  7. Transportation
  8. Nature (Wildlife, national parks etc)
  9. Tourism and recreation
  10. Symbols of the province
  11. Education
  12. Trivia
  13. See also

Well what do you think? Meursault2004 10:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good, but from my experience, 'History' seems to come first in geographic articles, although perhaps that is different for province/state articles. Also, we really don't want 'trivia'. If something is trivial, it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. If it is not trivial, ie, notable, we can fit it into one of the other sections. :). Merbabu 10:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

OK let's remove the trivia section. Yes I think it is different for province/state articles. As for countries, history indeed comes first before geography. But we can always move the sections later as long as we can set up a basic structure. Meursault2004 10:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, sounds reasonable re geog sec first.Merbabu 11:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Once the article is fleshed out - or rather written, since there's barely an outline yet! - maybe the list of Regencies could be moved to a separate "Regencies of Central Java" article? -- Danny Yee 11:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes that is possible or it is also worth considering to create a template and place it underneath the article. Meursault2004 12:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I would support making a separate article/ or template (as long as it was not too big) SatuSuro 07:08, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Size of the article

The article will exceed 32 kb I am afraid. It now stands at more than 20 kb. Shall we allow this to happen? Meursault2004 06:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

This is what collab should be. :-) Don't worry about the size. Reducing is much easier than adding materials. — Indon (reply) — 07:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Why my picture is deleted? Wong Jawa 22:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Nobody deleted your picture, but because of the picture does not compatible with Wikipedia licences, it was automatically speedy deleted. Please read carefully about WP:TAG. FYI, this wikipedia is very strict about image license. — Indon (reply) — 08:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Section

So almost done. Still need to do "Economy" and "Tourism". Economy is a bit hard. I have to find more information about the employment of Central Javanese population. Meursault2004 23:18, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese Javanese

W Tanoto wrote:

The areas that are densely populated by Chinese Indonesian, are called Pecinan, which has a meaning China Town. One of the popular Pecinan in Central Java is Jalan Pemuda and its surrounding in Magelang

From my personal experience the Chinese are not confined in Chinatowns in Central Java. Why have you taken Magelang as an example? I think there are better examples such as the Chinatown in Semarang or even Lasem. Meursault2004 23:31, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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