Talk:Centaur and TNO pronunciation

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[edit] Dioretsa

Since Dioretsa is just "asteroid" backwards, it has no given pronunciation. However, this is what I heard from the LINEAR team that discovered and named it:

"The name was suggested by two different people at a Flagstaff science festival to Ted Bowells. Bowells is the principal investigator for the LONEOS program. Every year he names one asteroid based on suggestions at the festival. A few years ago, two people made the same suggestion. In case you hadn't noticed, it's simply asteroid spelled backwards. The LINEAR program was the first program to discover a retrograde asteroid, and we were the only ones with a numbered retrograde asteroid. They must be numbered before they can be named. Ted contacted me and asked if we would consider it. I thought it was a perfect match.

"After all that long-winded explanation, I can honestly say, all the communications from the original suggesters all the way through the IAU naming committee has been in writing. There is no official pronunciation. That said, I personally tend to say it the same as you." [that is, DYE-or-RET-suh] --kwami

[edit] Huya

Ignacio Ferrin, the discoverer, said (by email) that the 'emphasis is on the "a": Huyá.' The aitch is pronounced as in English; the Spanish spelling Ignacio first proposed was "Juyá". --kwami

[edit] Chariklo and Ixion

The traditional stress rules for Greek words in English allow two variants for Chariklo. Bollard (Pronouncing Dictionary of Proper Names) has the stress on the first syllable, Morford and Lenardon (Classical Mythology) have it on the second, and Zimmerman (Dictionary of Classical Mythology) has both as acceptable variants.

You might expect Ixion to be pronounced with the stress on the first syllable, given the Greek Ιξίων. However, the classical Greek script was defective, and didn't distinguish long from short [i]. The Latin is Ixīōn, and stress goes on a penultimate long vowel.

[edit] Clean up IPA tag

As I've mentioned elsewhere this page should use the IPA. Kwami, I assume you've read the MoS. Jimp 16:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I have. It's inconsistant and provides no mechanism for indicating non-dialectal English pronunciations. If it had, I wouldn't have bothered with this ad hoc system. kwami 16:33, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
This is a flaw of the system as it stands. This I must admit. However, I'm not sure that it's completely insurmountable. I mean there are work-arounds within the IPA to deal with (at least a few) of these dialectical problems, superscript <r>s for example. Yes, the problem is that the MoS says use the IPA but nobody seems to have decided how the IPA should be used. That is, we have a phonetic alphabet but we need a phonemic one. Do keep in mind that I'm not against spelling based keys per se. All I'm saying is that we should not employ them without concensus. Without concensus you have the problem that everyone is using a different system. The astronomy articles use "KPA" whilst the dinosaur articles use a DIFrunt pro-NUN-see-AY-shun KEE. Hey, you don't have to remind me that everyone's got their own version of the IPA, though. Jimp 17:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pholus

In the conversion to the IPA, someone changed the o in Pholus from long to short. I've no objections, but I've only ever seen it with a long o, and that follows the general rule for pronouncing Greek names. Any source for the change? kwami 01:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)