Talk:Celesta
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[edit] Multiple manuals
I just saw Bjork on SNL and she had (in addition to several other uncommon instruments) a celesta onstage with her that had two sets of keys. Any reason for that? 69.253.193.234 04:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Guto Puw
Back in March 2007, someone editing from I.P. address added information about a work of Guto Puw to this page (in this edit). In case that IP editor is still around, I just thought I'd mention that there is now an article about Guto Puw and any information that you can add about his works would be appreciated. Thanks, Bencherlite 16:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clean up time
As it's gotten to the point where people are adding ANYTHING with a celesta in the score, it's probably time to give this a major cleanup, as was done similarly with bass clarinet, and stick to prominent uses. Anyone wanna give this a go? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 11:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] recording needed
Any chance of somebody making a recording and adding it to this article? Seeing a picture is one thing, but the text description of the sound doesn't work for all of us. --Scott Davis Talk 12:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dates
If the celesta was invented in 1889, how did Chausson use it in music written in 1888? 12.76.128.232 (talk) 13:57, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
- Good call. According to Grove, the instrument was actually invented in 1886. This article seems to have been filled with misinformation. I'm trying to fix it as best I can bit by bit. TheScotch (talk) 08:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 1940's
It seems like there should be something in here about the celeste's use in 1940's U.S. popular music. It was pretty much the signature sound of that era. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.12.87.94 (talk) 19:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Really? I can't recall off the top of my head a single use of the celeste in 1940's U.S. pop music. TheScotch (talk) 06:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Proper pronunciation
Re: "Well, if we're going with [s], at least put it in the IPA. Also, it does seem that some other languages pronounce it with a [tʃ]; someone wanna check it's never pronounced so in English?":
1. I used the pronunciation format for one of the three English dictionaries I checked, confident that eventually someone would come along and change it to whatever format wikipedia generally considers standard, which you appear to have done. Thanks.
2. I'm not sure how the words are pronounced in other languages, but I don't think this is particularly relevant for the English language version of wikipedia, except to note that celesta and celeste come to English from French, where the c couldn't possibly be pronounced ch, and to French from Latin, where again it couldn't possibly be pronounced ch. (If you have, or come to have, information about how they are pronounced in other languages, though, I'd be curious to hear it.)
3. Because I checked three English dictionaries (and especially because the first dictionary was the first edition of the American Heritage, the most reputable and reliable English dictionary ever published) and because of the etymology of these terms, I'm confident they are never properly pronounced with a ch sound in English. I have heard celeste mispronounced with a ch sound in English by a person who seemed to assume mistakenly the word to derive from Italian. (I feel unfortunately obliged to point out that in this case the speaker in question was putting on an affected manner of speech in other respects as well. In other words, not only is this mispronunciation not proper, it is also unnatural.) TheScotch (talk) 09:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
