Talk:Celebrity Paranormal Project

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I've....err, made a start. Not quite finished yet, but if anyone else has anything to add, please do. Can't say that i've seen this show, but i've tried to tighten up the article at any rate. Jammy simpson 17:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Added more specific tag, as I've not seen the show. Jammy simpson 17:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm a big fan, I'll try to add what I can.Crazedgiggles 20:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll point out that the first episode, to me, appeared to be Glenndale Hospital, a former sanitorium nearby to Washington, DC in Glenndale, MD. I've been there a few times, and one of the shots specifically looked like the back of the hospital.

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[edit] Deletion Voting

KEEP - The article could use clean up but the show may become a popular like Ghost Hunters has proven popular. At least give it a chance and see what happens. Cyberia23 19:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Possible future notability is not a criterion for inclusion now.Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 20:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
delete? wth! i just watched this (actually only about 1/2) and left with so many questions that i went to wiki. whoever suggested deletion was fairly mistaken, to put it nicely71.107.69.226 05:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

KEEP - The article does need clean up and some work, but I think that we should keep the article. I agree with Cyberia, we should give it a chance; the article is still extremely new so people may not have had a chance to wander over to it yet. -Elizabennet 23:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Delete - Its not a Show worthy of keeping in Wikipedia, its staged and fake, it will likely be forgotten after a few weeks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.138.95.39 (talk • contribs)

Keep. I find the term "not notable," at least for the time being, to be an opinion and not fact. The article wasn't up for more than 36 hours and you proposed a deletion. This would be understandable if this show were an obscure public access show, or a show that flopped after one episode, but thus far it's not the latter, and it's a cable TV show for the former. My worry is that if it gets deleted now, people will take it as a message not to remake the article at a future time when/if it really does become a huge or even minor hit for VH-1. Maikeru 17:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep - It's a show on a national network. How could that possibly be non-notable? Even if it only runs for one season, it would still have enough notability to be included in the Wikipedia. And I agree that it seems fake, which could only lend to the notability of it, due to people criticizing VH1 for airing it as being real. -GamblinMonkey 21:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep - It still exists, and still ought to be noted. Whether or not its faked, that would provide controversy, and would be notable.Mdesrosii 04:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

KEEP - Its a good show, and it does deserve a spot on Wikipedia. Good for people who wanna know about scary places --Kreepman 01:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Warson Asylum

Does anyone know if Warson Asylum actually exists? There's no wiki article, and if this whole "pearl" myth is real, it could, perhaps, do with an article. So... anyone? -Elizabennet 20:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Well not all historic sites have an entry on Wikipedia, but what I find curious is a Google search for Warson Asylum only comes up with VH1 hits. Warson Asylum is probably not its true name. I'm sure the site is a real prison but it must go officially by another name. It bears investigating. Cyberia23 20:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I find this whole show dubious. Unlike Ghost Hunters, which keeps cameras running at all times, this one has huge gaps of time where anyone (producers anyone?) can go in and move things around when the "investigators" aren't looking. The sheer amount of activity they claim to have "documented" seems fake. It also bugs me when any series only shows the reaction of the participants, not what they are reacting to. Does anyone else think that this one is completely staged? -- Mapetite526 21:14, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't like the fact that whenever they seem to actually catch something, like a shadow or an image on film or get an EVP, they don't go back over and review it or treat it as evidence. Last show when the chicks were in the insane asylum and the one had to stir the water in the tub to "provoke" activity, a camera caught a strange image looming above one of them for a moment, which looked like a lens reflection or a double image caused by interference. Back at home base however, they supposedly saw it on the screen and were like "What was that? Did you see that? OMG!!!" and thats it. They don't go back and review the video to see what it was. This tells me that things are filmed out of sequence or added later by editors to be scarier, and that looks fake as hell. If they actually caught something, you'd think they'd flag it and review it later. I know these celebs are not as technical as the Ghost Hunters teams and probably don't know how to rewind a DVR or hav the patience to watch hours of footage, but I know they're not alone. They say they are, but there is camera crews on site too. How else can they explain all those dramatic camera angles they get of the celebs wandering around from a different point of view. I'm kind of surprised by their Ouija board bit at the end, where they try to talk to spirits - I'm waiting any day now for a religious group to go apeshit about it and force the show off the air - thus ratings will skyrocket in defiance and earn more money. Cyberia23 00:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, to me the seance portions are the fakest part of it. -- Mapetite526 19:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
To me, it looks like they put the people into specific locations then trigger things. Not sure how they do it though. Some of it is deffinately real. -- lastchanch 17:39, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
it seems like it would be rather easy to send a crew member in before the celebrities go in and have them do whatever they need to do. i'd be pretty wary of a show that is allegedly documenting a haunted area, that is comprised primarily of celebrities; not to mention how you can clearly see edited or exaggerated "hauntings". incidentally, when i was watching the second episode, the "scream" in the scene with traci bingham and rachel hunter sounds uncannily like a stock scream added later. cma 09:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

An anon user said Warson is "Norwich State Hospital" which I found links to on abandonedbutnot forgotten.com and another site, but Norwich looks nothing like Warson did in the show. So where the f*** is this Warson place and why can't anyone find it? If I recall the show Warson had two large wings and a center castle looking structure. Norwich looks more gothic with smaller wings that jut out in different directions like Waverly Hills. Cyberia23 23:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

"Warson Asylum" is the Norwich State Hospital, in Preston, CT. I live about 30 miles from it and saw an article about the filming in the local newspaper, The Day. User: Chriskennedy311
Okay, now the list says Norwich and Warson aren't the same? Whatever, I don't care anymore & not gonna argue about it. Cyberia23 06:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Go to the link below (cut and paste) to read about MTV's "Fear" which was the same show without celebs. This speaks of some of the locations. Oh, by the way.....BOO

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No need to cut and paste. Simply put the link in between the brackets. -- Mapetite526 17:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

So they're using fictitious names for the places they investigate? Wonder why they decided to do that? Cyberia23 05:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

They did that so both fanatics and vandals wouldn't visit the places they investigated. Same thing with Fear on MTV.

Also, while I do agree some of this show is a bit fake, the Sanatorium was indeed haunted. I have seen pictures of Norwich State Hospital (especially the attic), and that looks exactly like the Warson Asylum. Not Applicable 23:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CPP vs. MTV's FEAR

The statement that this is essentially the same show as MTV's Fear, except with celebrities, is not accurate. Fear producers did not, as far as I could tell, actively interfere with the participants as they were out doing their assignments, and no visual FX ghosts, shadows, etc., were added in post-production. With this new show, it's totally obvious that there are show producers hiding in the shadows, messing with the "celebrities". For example, in the episode in the hospital, balls were seen on the floor, that changed position each time the participants passed by. Hot and cold spots (and EMF spikes) are also obviously the work of humans behind the scenes, as are the sounds of whispering and footsteps. Fear was a far superior show, IMO, because the participants were allowed to get all freaked out on their own, without any external "help". Spoiledgradient 00:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, this is the statement that I think needs to be modified: "Except for a different title and usage of celebrities the show on VH1, is identical to MTV's Fear." Anyone else familiar with FEAR agree?Spoiledgradient 01:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd have to disagree.. We're kind of nitpicking over details if we do change it, although maybe some rewording of that statement would do. Saying that the producers are "messing around" with the celebrities is purely speculative, as they haven't come out and said anything to this nature. Since we're trying to be as factual as possible here, we can't really offer up our own opinions (personally, I believe they really are out there alone in CPP). The digitally added effects are certainly there, but they are only added for entertainment purposes. The show concept is still formulaic based on what they did in Fear. I do have to say though that Fear seemed more a show about "doing scary things in scary places", while CPP tries to "investigate the paranormal, in which scary stuff happens". Crazedgiggles 15:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Crazedgiggles, I belive that it should stay the same. I also believe that CPP producers don't mess around with the celebrites. I can also (kind of) discredit the claim that the producers moved the ball in the Sanitorium episode because, when Ghost Hunters did their 2007 Live Halloween Special there, they did the same ball thing with Timmy (i.e. leaving a ball on the floor and seeing if it moves) and the ball did move 16 feet on it's own, and also, it would start moving slightly, without interference and without a breeze, when they asked Timmy to move it. Keep in mind that it was live TV and they couldn't do and carera tricks! I know it ain't much but it's something. --BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 22:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Last Episode's Unknown Celebrity Cast Members

For a few weeks now, DirecTV has been putting the wrong summaries for CPP's episodes in their program guide. When they showed the episode with Gilbert Gottfried, they put the summary of the episode with Coolio and vice versa. Well, in this last episode they again put the wrong summary, and it said something like this: "Adrianne Curry, Chris Knight, and Danny and Gretchen Bonaduce investigate prison inmate deaths." I thought it was weird that they only listed four cast members instead of the usual five, but in the weeks they had mismatched summaries, the names of the cast members were correct, so that episode's team might just be made up of 4. Hope that helps. --Andresg770 03:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

That describes episode 8, which according to VH1's website, will be a special "couples" edition, explaining the lack of an uneven number of players. Crazedgiggles 15:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)