Talk:Celebrimbor

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Is Celebrimbor the last direct descendant of Fëanor? What about Fëanor's son Maglor who survived the First Age. The only mention of his fate in Quenta Silmarillion is that he never came back among the elves. --GingerM 14:52, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Precisely, so nothing is known about him. He dropped out of history, so Celebrimbor was the last descendant of Fëanor in recorded history in Middle-earth. Jordi· 14:57, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

But then again, I forget where, it is stated that Maglor is the most likely of Feanor's son to have had a wife and children. Thier names were just not recorded.

[edit] Ambiguous colloquial expression

The phrase, "captured in the sack" is either colloquial or refers to a story element that should be expanded.

[edit] A lot of what is said here is just wrong

In Tolkien there is nothing said about the descent of Celebrimbor, only that he was one of the Noldor (as he dwelled in Eregion). Nothing is there to say, though obviously he was one of the "elven smiths" that forged the great rings, that he was in league with Annatar, alias Sauron, or even believed him in any way. I find this article misleading, to say the least. In a few snippets by Tolkien it is implied that Celebrimbor was descended from Feanor, but that is not the point in this article as it stands. Celebrimbor didn't forge the Rings, he was one of the elven smiths that forged the rings, and he didn't do so in league with Sauron, but at his instruction, and the ones who knew Annatar's mind, or suspected it, kept their work secret in their hearts, and never revealed that they made the great rings, but Sauron, knowing the craft of ringmaking made the one ring to rule them all, so no one could fool him anymore; but without his ring, to which Sauron bled most of his power, he couldn't be anything but a shadow, or a human controlling force. That's why Sauron used only ground forces, humans and orcs and some trolls, and not dragons and balrogs. He couldn't. He was weak without his power that was in the ring, and Morgoth had been banished beyond the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.152.239.101 (talk) 00:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)